Night Walker Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I was of course quite happy to consider my yowie experiences as parallel to Sasquatch / Big Foot encounters but have found that there are those who dont aquait information on the Yowie to their Sasquatch / Big Foot enquiries. What information on the Yowie would that be? "Tree bites"? Almost everything we think we know about the Yowie comes from fantasists and fakers (Yes, I am more than happy to name them individually and the sky has yet to fall in) while almost everything else ("wood knocks", "stick formations", etc) has been imported from Bigfoot Research. As I recall, you have never had an encounter and so you likely dont feel a difficulty in engaging in Big Foot conversations speaking really on Yowies. You have had no personalised experience as I can read on your posts here and in the OzCryto forum. To my knowledge I am the only active Yowie Researcher who doesn't claim any sightings. "Bigfoot" is a good generic term when speaking about the Yowie, Yeti, Yeren, etc and also when speaking specifically about the American Bigfoot. Context is king. If there was tangible information separating Bigfoot (the American variety) from all the other global Bigfoots we wouldn't need to specualte upon it on a Fortean forum, would we? Now would you like me to add some of the names you have offered (though you have offered them as if they were well known ) such as Littlebigfoot - I can put that on the list if you like. I certainly hadnt heard it before. Are you implying that "Bigfoot" is not a well-known term? "A little Bigfoot" would only apply to the pygmy-types whereas "Bigfoot" is applicable to all whether they are big or little. So, if you need a term then I suggest adding the already widely used "Bigfoot" to the list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) What information on the Yowie would that be? "Tree bites"? Almost everything we think we know about the Yowie comes from fantasists and fakers (Yes, I am more than happy to name them individually and the sky has yet to fall in) while almost everything else ("wood knocks", "stick formations", etc) has been imported from Bigfoot Research...." As I have sighted a yowie and have have been extremely close to one making a massive roar growl sound, have lived in an area where there were a number of sightings and tree knocks (investigated and no human was doing that ), I find it rather dismissive of you and denegrating to state that those providing information on Yowie experiences are by logic likely to be fakers and fantasists or have just transcribed an experience from the US. You are denegrating a number of people here in such generalisations. I didnt know about that roar or the wood knocking until I experienced it. Now Night Walker, while it is clear from your history of posts that you have gone from being a person who just believes something because such and such a person wouldnt lie, or an off duty policeman wouldnt make up a story (very naive) to such a full on skeptic that you now see it all as fake. That is not investigation. There are subtleties - there are fakers and there are the genuine. I am not a faker and do somewhat resent your implying that yowie encounters are generally frauds. If you are talking about a couple of rather well known yowie "experts", we may actually be agreed. You are basically saying that information from Yowie encounters should be discounted as either fake or seen as transcribed from Big Foot encounters in the USA - you discount and denegrate those who have had genuine experiences, and you also dismiss thousands of years of information from indigenous australians. This allows you no way of finding out whether yowie encounters are similar to US BF encounters, as you start off on the premis that there are no genuine encounters of the yowie independant of information put out from BF research. "To my knowledge I am the only active Yowie Researcher who doesn't claim any sightings. "Bigfoot" is a good generic term when speaking about the Yowie, Yeti, Yeren, etc and also when speaking specifically about the American Bigfoot. Context is king. If there was tangible information separating Bigfoot (the American variety) from all the other global Bigfoots we wouldn't need to specualte upon it on a Fortean forum, would we?" You obviously havent read my posts. I believe there is much that is the same and am concerned that people from other areas of the world may sometimes not join in on a bigfoot discussion concerning sightings of a similar being in their country thinking that they are not included in the discussion. I have also already noted that some do not connect yowie information to BF and disregard yowie information. A group world name will help to open discourse from around the world. That doesnt mean that we should not use Big Foot , Sasqatch, Yowie etc. It adds a name to serve a purpose as the need presents. The words we are using at present in the US Canada and Australia are quite recent. Another name as the world wide discussion on the hairy wild hominid is growing could be useful when talking very generally. Edited January 12, 2012 by Encounter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted January 12, 2012 BFF Patron Share Posted January 12, 2012 There we go another thread teetering on destruction because of infighting........geesh......can you take it to another forum or something, or read the rules maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See-Te-Cah NC Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 A reminder to our members... Please keep it civil, guys. There's no need to keep attacking one another and taking the thread off-topic. Please don't force a thread to become locked or an increase in warning status. See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) A reminder to our members... Please keep it civil, guys. There's no need to keep attacking one another and taking the thread off-topic. Please don't force a thread to become locked or an increase in warning status. See Okay I 'll throw out one to chew on: Homo indomitus I don't think it meets the suffix criteria or rules...but the root could stand.... and the genus and the idea they are different, enough so to justify their own species, regardless of DNA - assuming the sub-species is more about haplotypes...and also, it isn't regional, not in use, and evokes some good thoughts for me...and since we don't know H.erectus genome yet, leaves a few doors open? so, man... but, wild..beyond laws LOL I will not come back to defend...I noticed a similar thread a few weeks back and did not post...and this is why...a name can be meaningful for people and we don't have much say, so the need to REALLY say it here arises... I was surprised by the resistence to the "h. sapien hirsutii"...so, just a thought! Edited January 12, 2012 by apehuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Okay I 'll throw out one to chew on: Homo indomitus I don't think it meets the suffix criteria or rules...but the root could stand.... and the genus and the idea they are different, enough so to justify their own species, regardless of DNA - assuming the sub-species is more about haplotypes...and also, it isn't regional, not in use, and evokes some good thoughts for me...and since we don't know H.erectus genome yet, leaves a few doors open? so, man... but, wild..beyond laws LOL I will not come back to defend...I noticed a similar thread a few weeks back and did not post...and this is why...a name can be meaningful for people and we don't have much say, so the need to REALLY say it here arises... I was surprised by the resistence to the "h. sapien hirsutii"...so, just a thought! Thanks for bringing the thread back to the thread Apehuman, for respecting the subject of the thread and for offering a good name. I will add "homo indomitus" to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowBorn Posted January 12, 2012 Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2012 If you go simia/ Vir indomitus will that work some.Since i kinda of see them as a ape part man untamed.Beside they do not respect boundaries and they realy do not care nor do they care about rulers since they rule themselves. vir / simia regitur qui nihil(man/ape who is ruled by none). Also you can go with qui praeesset saltus (people who rule the forest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Ok so the list is now as follows : hairy wild hominids Feral Forest People Homins unknown bipedal entities Zoobies Crypto-hominids. Homo arcana Shadow people Proto-human Cryptominids unknown bipedals Greater Apes Hirsutia hairy hominin pilosus - … hairy-monkey-man Habigot MHB (mysterious hairy biped) UHB (Unknown/Unclassified Hairy Biped) hairy crytominid wild man Who (wild hairy one) Hairyhom Homo indomitus h. sapien hirsutii simia/ Vir indomitus vir / simia regitur qui nihil(man/ape who is ruled by none) qui praeesset saltus (people who rule the forest) .... and continuing... If you go simia/ Vir indomitus will that work some.Since i kinda of see them as a ape part man untamed.Beside they do not respect boundaries and they realy do not care nor do they care about rulers since they rule themselves. vir / simia regitur qui nihil(man/ape who is ruled by none). Also you can go with qui praeesset saltus (people who rule the forest). Have added your suggestions to the list julio126 Edited January 12, 2012 by Encounter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonehead74 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Ok so the list is now as follows : hairy wild hominids Feral Forest People Homins unknown bipedal entities Zoobies Crypto-hominids. Homo arcana Shadow people Proto-human Cryptominids unknown bipedals Greater Apes Hirsutia hairy hominin pilosus - … hairy-monkey-man Habigot MHB (mysterious hairy biped) UHB (Unknown/Unclassified Hairy Biped) hairy crytominid wild man Who (wild hairy one) Hairyhom Homo indomitus h. sapien hirsutii simia/ Vir indomitus vir / simia regitur qui nihil(man/ape who is ruled by none) qui praeesset saltus (people who rule the forest) .... and continuing... Have added your suggestions to the list julio126 This will undoubtedly reduce confusion. Habigot has a certain ring to it... Edited January 12, 2012 by Bonehead74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted January 12, 2012 BFF Patron Share Posted January 12, 2012 I rather like gotihab myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonehead74 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I just realized no one mentioned 'Bumble' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernyahoo Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Manimals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Manimals Will add "Manimal" to the list on next list update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonehead74 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) In that case, you should definitely consider "Animan", plural: "Animen". The females would obviously be known as "Aniwomen". Edited January 13, 2012 by Bonehead74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) In that case, you should definitely consider "animan", plural "animen". Thanks Bonehead, I'll add "Animan" to the list with the above "Manimal" The current list is as follows : hairy wild hominids Feral Forest People Homins unknown bipedal entities Zoobies Crypto-hominids. Homo arcana Shadow people Proto-human Cryptominids unknown bipedals Greater Apes Hirsutia hairy hominin pilosus - … hairy-monkey-man Habigot MHB (mysterious hairy biped) UHB (Unknown/Unclassified Hairy Biped) hairy crytominid wild man Who (wild hairy one) Hairyhom Homo indomitus h. sapien hirsutii simia/ Vir indomitus vir / simia regitur qui nihil(man/ape who is ruled by none) qui praeesset saltus (people who rule the forest) Manimal Animan Hairymanimal Hairyaniman .... Edited January 13, 2012 by Encounter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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