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9 hours ago, FelixTheCat said:

Loping deer can make such inline and deep tracks as well


It’s called stotting.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stotting

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36 minutes ago, FelixTheCat said:

Thank you, I learned something new.


You bet!👍

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Wr found one snow track, very old. In a straight line, and about 5 feet apart. Interesting discussion. 

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On 1/27/2025 at 11:13 AM, joebeelart said:

I respectfully disagree with Patterson-Gimlin that the best Sasquatch tracks are from hard crust snow requiring massive weight.  For example once Cliff Olson and I found several hundred tracks at or near the quarry on the east end of Whale Head above Ripplebrook Ranger Station.  That happened about Thanksgiving week when we were looking for a Christmas tree.  The snow, in places was 18" deep and fresh that night.  The weight of the Sasquatch compressed the snow so we could see toes, dermal ridges, the "mid-tarsal" break, etc.  We took lots of film photos but the light was rotten.  It was perfectly obvious that the Sasquatch had walked to the edge of the quarry road and looked at the glow from Estacada and beyond in the night.

 

We went back up the next day only to find blown snow had covered the trackway.  

 

In another instance, Steve Kiley and I found good, fresh snow tracks in snow up Indian Henry and there was no crust involved.  We managed to cast three imprints, but they didn't come out too good but Ray Crowe put them in his "museum."  Given these and other examples, I think the best tracks are in fresh, thick Cascade Mountain snow, or in impressionable soil.  What it takes is time and gas money to find them. 

 

I also found good snow tracks on Flat Top Mountain in the Oregon Coast range, among other finds.   The quality of the snow and freshness are important. 

 

Good trackways have parallel tracks.  I suggest studying common animal tracks made in snow.  Joe here

Those weren't dermal ridges that you saw. It's hard enough for dermal ridges to be imprinted on dirt and mud, so not all of the casts that are claimed to have them are actual dermal ridges. Plaster casts produces a lot of artifacts during the curing process. Therefore, careful examination of the casts is required for confirmation. But, when it comes to snow footprints, the chance of it having dermal ridges are 0% because it violates the laws of physics. Snow isn't fine enough to be able to pick up the ridges. But what makes it impossible is that the thin layer of the surface of the snow melts immediately on contact with the bottom of the foot. 

On 1/27/2025 at 11:13 AM, joebeelart said:

I respectfully disagree with Patterson-Gimlin that the best Sasquatch tracks are from hard crust snow requiring massive weight.  For example once Cliff Olson and I found several hundred tracks at or near the quarry on the east end of Whale Head above Ripplebrook Ranger Station.  That happened about Thanksgiving week when we were looking for a Christmas tree.  The snow, in places was 18" deep and fresh that night.  The weight of the Sasquatch compressed the snow so we could see toes, dermal ridges, the "mid-tarsal" break, etc.  We took lots of film photos but the light was rotten.  It was perfectly obvious that the Sasquatch had walked to the edge of the quarry road and looked at the glow from Estacada and beyond in the night.

 

We went back up the next day only to find blown snow had covered the trackway.  

 

In another instance, Steve Kiley and I found good, fresh snow tracks in snow up Indian Henry and there was no crust involved.  We managed to cast three imprints, but they didn't come out too good but Ray Crowe put them in his "museum."  Given these and other examples, I think the best tracks are in fresh, thick Cascade Mountain snow, or in impressionable soil.  What it takes is time and gas money to find them. 

 

I also found good snow tracks on Flat Top Mountain in the Oregon Coast range, among other finds.   The quality of the snow and freshness are important. 

 

Good trackways have parallel tracks.  I suggest studying common animal tracks made in snow.  Joe here

Those weren't dermal ridges that you saw. It's hard enough for dermal ridges to be imprinted on dirt and mud, so not all of the casts that are claimed to have them are actual dermal ridges. Plaster casts produces a lot of artifacts during the curing process. Therefore, careful examination of the casts is required for confirmation. But, when it comes to snow footprints, the chance of it having dermal ridges are 0% because it violates the laws of physics. Snow isn't fine enough to be able to pick up the ridges. But what makes it impossible is that the thin layer of the surface of the snow melts immediately on contact with the bottom of the foot. 

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