RedHawk454 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) Following Trumps directive, the usda is going to allow the logging of 112 million acres of national forest across the USA to increase timber production. The claim that the Trump administration is making is that it will reduce forest fires and (so they say). This is primarily being done to increase timber production with ZERO consideration of the effect that this will have on the woods in the USA. I’m worried that this will have a negative impact on the BiGFo0Ts that are still alive. It was the unregulated logging the 18 and 1900’s that drove them to isolation.. Protect our forests Land of Sasquatch Dont tread on me! Edited 20 hours ago by RedHawk454
CatskillCrawler Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Any chance you have a link? I'm trying to find an article. This would definitely affect the population of any Bigfoot let alone other flora and fauna in the area.
norseman Posted 16 hours ago Admin Posted 16 hours ago 4 hours ago, RedHawk454 said: Following Trumps directive, the usda is going to allow the logging of 112 million acres of national forest across the USA to increase timber production. The claim that the Trump administration is making is that it will reduce forest fires and (so they say). This is primarily being done to increase timber production with ZERO consideration of the effect that this will have on the woods in the USA. I’m worried that this will have a negative impact on the BiGFo0Ts that are still alive. It was the unregulated logging the 18 and 1900’s that drove them to isolation.. Protect our forests Land of Sasquatch Dont tread on me! The federal forests around me need thinning badly. Fires get worse every year. I welcome this news. 1
RedHawk454 Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago 28 minutes ago, norseman said: The federal forests around me need thinning badly. Fires get worse every year. I welcome this news. that’s a claim. There are claims being made on both sides of this issue.
MIB Posted 9 hours ago Moderator Posted 9 hours ago 6 hours ago, RedHawk454 said: that’s a claim. There are claims being made on both sides of this issue. Boots on the ground observation here says his claim is correct. 1 1
CryptidTalk Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Any indication on the distribution across the country? To my knowledge, the majority of national forests are in the PNW. Will it all be concentrated there or will this be spread across the country?
RedHawk454 Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, CatskillCrawler said: Any chance you have a link? I'm trying to find an article. This would definitely affect the population of any Bigfoot let alone other flora and fauna in the area. Theres many articles. Heres googles AI overview: On Friday, April 5th, the USDA issued a memo allowing logging on over 112 million acres of national forests, aiming to increase timber production and reduce wildfire risk, potentially bypassing standard environmental processes. Here's a more detailed breakdown: The Memo: Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins issued a memo, following an executive order, to expedite logging activities in designated forests. Purpose: The move aims to increase U.S. timber production and empower the Forest Service to take emergency actions to reduce wildfire risk. Scope: The memo impacts 112,646,000 acres, which is 59% of all Forest Service lands, determined to be at risk of fire, harmful insects, or both. Impacted Areas: This includes forests like the Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest, Bridger-Teton National Forest, Shoshone National Forest, Black Hills National Forest, and Bighorn National Forest. Environmental Concerns: The memo could potentially dismantle some National Environmental Policy Act processes, raising concerns about environmental safeguards. Environmental Groups Opposition: Environmental groups like the Sierra Club, Coalition to Protect America's National Parks, and Environment America oppose the memo, citing potential harm to environmental protections and increased risk to forests. heres an article USDA designates 113 million acres for emergency logging to boost U.S. timber production 3 hours ago, MIB said: Boots on the ground observation here says his claim is correct. i'm not saying that that isnt going to happen and yes its needed, but thats one claim to justify this whole thing. From what Ive read its really being done to boost US timber production Edited 5 hours ago by RedHawk454 1
norseman Posted 4 hours ago Admin Posted 4 hours ago 32 minutes ago, RedHawk454 said: Theres many articles. Heres googles AI overview: On Friday, April 5th, the USDA issued a memo allowing logging on over 112 million acres of national forests, aiming to increase timber production and reduce wildfire risk, potentially bypassing standard environmental processes. Here's a more detailed breakdown: The Memo: Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins issued a memo, following an executive order, to expedite logging activities in designated forests. Purpose: The move aims to increase U.S. timber production and empower the Forest Service to take emergency actions to reduce wildfire risk. Scope: The memo impacts 112,646,000 acres, which is 59% of all Forest Service lands, determined to be at risk of fire, harmful insects, or both. Impacted Areas: This includes forests like the Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest, Bridger-Teton National Forest, Shoshone National Forest, Black Hills National Forest, and Bighorn National Forest. Environmental Concerns: The memo could potentially dismantle some National Environmental Policy Act processes, raising concerns about environmental safeguards. Environmental Groups Opposition: Environmental groups like the Sierra Club, Coalition to Protect America's National Parks, and Environment America oppose the memo, citing potential harm to environmental protections and increased risk to forests. heres an article USDA designates 113 million acres for emergency logging to boost U.S. timber production i'm not saying that that isnt going to happen and yes its needed, but thats one claim to justify this whole thing. From what Ive read its really being done to boost US timber production It is both. Our forests are being mismanaged. Fires are getting bad. And the tariff wars will have a negative effect on Canadian imports including lumber. Which is the point of tariffs is to bring production and jobs back to America. Here is a random snapshot of the border between the U.S. and Canada in the Yaak River drainage. Do you notice anything? Which side is logging more? Most timber production in the U.S. no longer comes from the U.S. Forest Service. It comes from state lands and private lands. I.e. Weyerhaeuser or Boise Cascade. And the last part that really gets under my hide is that the U.S. Forest Service is a part of the Dept of AGRICULTURE. Why agriculture? Because up until the spotted owl debacle? Forests were seen as a green renewable resource. You’re growing a crop. You harvest the crop, and you replant the crop. Now they treat them like parks. They don’t touch them, the fuel load grows and grows per acre until a hot summer and a lightning strike sets off a massive forest fire. As a fire fighter of 17 years? Loggers respect flag lines and timber sale boundaries. Forest fires? Do not. Complete towns have burned down. This is mismanagement on an epic scale. And if I started a fire on my property and it spread to Forest Service property? They would sue me into oblivion…. but when it’s the other way around? Crickets. What does this all mean for Bigfoot? Remember that US Parks and wilderness areas will not be touched. But clear cuts are beneficial to certain species like Elk and Deer. If Bigfoot likes to eat hoofed critters? He will like clear cuts. Also all logging respects RZs or Riparian zones, so they cannot log right down to the crick or river. This keeps fish and other critters habitat intact. Also Bigfoot already has to navigate forest fire burnt areas already. A clear cut in his eyes would be just the same without the threat of being burned alive. Some noisy loggers move in for a couple of months and then they are gone.🤷♂️ 1
norseman Posted 4 hours ago Admin Posted 4 hours ago The Forest Service doesn’t even clear out trails or roads anymore. And their forests are a mess. Waiting for a lightning strike or a careless camper. Fires happen in nature. But reducing the fuel load reduces the intensity of the fire greatly.
NorCalWitness Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago typical word play in the original post. not blaming the OP, but I am blaming his sources for fear mongering. opening 112M acres for logging doesn't mean that 112M acres will be logged. Today, we log anywhere from 2M to 10M acres a year in the US. The directive from President Trump is to increase logging by 25% domestically. That means 500K to 2.5M acres will be logged out of the 112M acres. We are talking about .45% to 2.23% of the 112M acres being logged. We have 823M acres of forest in the US. When you look at the amount of total forest impact, we are talking about to .06% to .30% of the forest being logged annually under this new rule. Is this really a sky is falling moment? NOT EVEN CLOSE. It is more whipped up hysteria from the true enemy of the people, the media. 1 1
Will Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 17 hours ago, RedHawk454 said: Following Trumps directive, the usda is going to allow the logging of 112 million acres of national forest across the USA to increase timber production. The claim that the Trump administration is making is that it will reduce forest fires and (so they say). This is primarily being done to increase timber production with ZERO consideration of the effect that this will have on the woods in the USA. I’m worried that this will have a negative impact on the BiGFo0Ts that are still alive. It was the unregulated logging the 18 and 1900’s that drove them to isolation.. Protect our forests Land of Sasquatch Dont tread on me! Forests like everything else need to be managed. Letting nature take its course….has its effects!
Will Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, RedHawk454 said: From what Ive read its really being done to boost US timber production In my view, that is equally important. 1
Will Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, norseman said: It is both. Our forests are being mismanaged. Fires are getting bad. And the tariff wars will have a negative effect on Canadian imports including lumber. Which is the point of tariffs is to bring production and jobs back to America. Here is a random snapshot of the border between the U.S. and Canada in the Yaak River drainage. Do you notice anything? Which side is logging more? Most timber production in the U.S. no longer comes from the U.S. Forest Service. It comes from state lands and private lands. I.e. Weyerhaeuser or Boise Cascade. And the last part that really gets under my hide is that the U.S. Forest Service is a part of the Dept of AGRICULTURE. Why agriculture? Because up until the spotted owl debacle? Forests were seen as a green renewable resource. You’re growing a crop. You harvest the crop, and you replant the crop. Now they treat them like parks. They don’t touch them, the fuel load grows and grows per acre until a hot summer and a lightning strike sets off a massive forest fire. As a fire fighter of 17 years? Loggers respect flag lines and timber sale boundaries. Forest fires? Do not. Complete towns have burned down. This is mismanagement on an epic scale. And if I started a fire on my property and it spread to Forest Service property? They would sue me into oblivion…. but when it’s the other way around? Crickets. What does this all mean for Bigfoot? Remember that US Parks and wilderness areas will not be touched. But clear cuts are beneficial to certain species like Elk and Deer. If Bigfoot likes to eat hoofed critters? He will like clear cuts. Also all logging respects RZs or Riparian zones, so they cannot log right down to the crick or river. This keeps fish and other critters habitat intact. Also Bigfoot already has to navigate forest fire burnt areas already. A clear cut in his eyes would be just the same without the threat of being burned alive. Some noisy loggers move in for a couple of months and then they are gone.🤷♂️ As someone in this industry, I agree fully and you’ve explained it perfectly. 35 minutes ago, NorCalWitness said: typical word play in the original post. not blaming the OP, but I am blaming his sources for fear mongering. opening 112M acres for logging doesn't mean that 112M acres will be logged. Today, we log anywhere from 2M to 10M acres a year in the US. The directive from President Trump is to increase logging by 25% domestically. That means 500K to 2.5M acres will be logged out of the 112M acres. We are talking about .45% to 2.23% of the 112M acres being logged. We have 823M acres of forest in the US. When you look at the amount of total forest impact, we are talking about to .06% to .30% of the forest being logged annually under this new rule. Is this really a sky is falling moment? NOT EVEN CLOSE. It is more whipped up hysteria from the true enemy of the people, the media. Another excellent post, lots of common sense on this board!!! 2
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