USDA to cut 112 million acres of national forest

[norseman]

15 hours ago, Arel3 said:

Isn't there also regulation, law, that forces logging operations to plant so many trees for the amount that they harvest? I'm aware that concept would have a multi-decade turnaround until new trees are grown. 
But isn't that the case? If it is then, in the long run, it's a step being taken to make things better for the country.

The feds replant, and so do timber companies.

 

There is a push to bring back white pine to Idaho. Their state tree.

[norseman]

15 hours ago, Backdoc said:

People will debate the best way is to handle forest management. 

 

I want to pivot to the idea of What effect increased forest management activity might have on potential bigfoot sightings?

 

We know in Bluff Creek in 1967 the area of the creek bed was swept open from a previous flood pre-1967   This made it easier to have the PGF encounter.  The result was a more open space than what might have been had the flood not happened.  Harder to Bigfoot to hide if he/she wanted to eat fish or take a drink.  Nature has started long ago to reclaim the PGF area to somewhat of a Pre-flood status.  

 

 

  

 

 

Logging crew and forest activity will have some effect on a bigfoot sightings because it some unknown way it will effect Bigfoot behavior.   Maybe migration pattern changes.   Maybe the activity creates fear driving animals away but it could just as easily cause short term curiosity attracting animals or Bigfoot.    I am assuming that effect would drive Bigfoot away from the activity.  I have absolutely no way to prove this.  We know when mankind builds into the outskirts of the town they start to have encounters with animals who might have been living there.   In some case this results in wild animals who would normally live in the woods quietly to go through your trash.   I don't know if Bigfoot is attracted to any old pizza boxes or thrown away left overs, but if that is the case, it doesn't seem to create Bigfoot sightings around the trash like it does Bear sightings.

 

 

I wonder if in the short term activity in the forest creates some draw from Bigfoot to the area.   We could even imagine the logging crews of Lyle Loverty could have actually attracted Patty to the area.   My guess it the result would be to repel Bigfoot.  

 

With this new proposed forest activity, we are going to find out.  

 

 

 

Logging and burns are good for ungulate populations. Creating browse for Moose, Elk and Deer.

 

If Bigfoot hunts ungulates? Then it would benefit them as well. 
 

These elk are hanging out in a burn area a couple of weeks ago in the CDA Nat Forest.

[georgerm]

"Logging and burns are good for ungulate populations. Creating browse for Moose, Elk and Deer.

If Bigfoot hunts ungulates? Then it would benefit them as well,"  Norseman. 

 

Norse's statement makes sense that Bigfoot hunts ungulates. Bigfoot probably supplements its diet with berries, grubs, squirrels, and reptiles too.  

 

“The U.S. Forest Service did not meet federal goals and produced approximately 3.08 billion board feet of lumber in 2023, and they also produced 2.88 billion board feet of timber in 2024,” according to E&E News. This amount of 2.88 billion board feet for 2024 is .42 billion board feet shy of Trump’s goal of 3.3 billion board feet should be cut each year.  Each area that has been clear cut will be replanted and ready for another harvest in about 40 years.

 

Will Trump's goal of producing more lumber benefit Bigfoot?   

Will there always be enough hiding areas for Bigfoot to make a nest and raise young?

[norseman]

During our trip we ate dinner last night in Libby Montana. I asked the waitress where all their logging went? She sneered and said the Forest Service had shanked them. All gone, now it’s just fires. I told her that’s unfortunate and maybe relief is coming. And that Kettle Falls still had 4 mills running. We are soooo fortunate in NE Washington. Who makes these decisions? The forests of NW Montana are vast.

 

She said what logging that does happen? All the logs are sent to Moyie Springs Idaho. That’s Idaho Forest Group over there.

[norseman]

1 hour ago, georgerm said:

"Logging and burns are good for ungulate populations. Creating browse for Moose, Elk and Deer.

If Bigfoot hunts ungulates? Then it would benefit them as well,"  Norseman. 

 

Norse's statement makes sense that Bigfoot hunts ungulates. Bigfoot probably supplements its diet with berries, grubs, squirrels, and reptiles too.  

 

“The U.S. Forest Service did not meet federal goals and produced approximately 3.08 billion board feet of lumber in 2023, and they also produced 2.88 billion board feet of timber in 2024,” according to E&E News. This amount of 2.88 billion board feet for 2024 is .42 billion board feet shy of Trump’s goal of 3.3 billion board feet should be cut each year.  Each area that has been clear cut will be replanted and ready for another harvest in about 40 years.

 

Will Trump's goal of producing more lumber benefit Bigfoot?   

Will there always be enough hiding areas for Bigfoot to make a nest and raise young?

Q1 I would think so.

 

Q2 So long as timber ground remains timber ground. You cannot plant, grow and harvest trees in the middle of an asphalt parking lot. White fish, Columbia Falls and Kalispel are becoming one city as we speak.

 

The I-5 corridor from Vancouver BC to Portland Oregon? It’s GONE.

 

 

[georgerm]

17 hours ago, norseman said:

During our trip we ate dinner last night in Libby Montana. I asked the waitress where all their logging went? "She sneered and said the Forest Service had shanked them. All gone, now it’s just fires," waitress. "I told her that’s unfortunate and maybe relief is coming. And that Kettle Falls still had 4 mills running. We are soooo fortunate in NE Washington. Who makes these decisions? The forests of NW Montana are vast," Norseman.

 

"She said what logging that does happen? All the logs are sent to Moyie Springs Idaho. That’s Idaho Forest Group over there.

 

17 hours ago, norseman said:

During our trip we ate dinner last night in Libby Montana. I asked the waitress where all their logging went? She sneered and said, "the Forest Service had shanked them. All gone, now it’s just fires. I told her that’s unfortunate and maybe relief is coming. And that Kettle Falls still had 4 mills running. We are soooo fortunate in NE Washington. Who makes these decisions? The forests of NW Montana are vast," Norseman.

 

"She said what logging that does happen? All the logs are sent to Moyie Springs Idaho. That’s Idaho Forest Group over there..................continued

sketch from Google

..........logging regulations in Montana have been so severe that the mills have closed and profits from timber production are minimal. In their words the forest are shanked," waitress.

 

Are shanked forest good for bigfoots to reproduce and raise young? This biological enigma should be included in timber production plans. Do the federal foresters/biologist even recognize Bigfoot?

 

"While the Bitterroot National Forest is mentioned, Montana has several other national forests, including the Kootenai, Helena-Lewis and Clark, and Beaverhead-Deerlodge, all of which likely have areas that could be described as "shanked" due to forest management practices," Google. 

 

Trump wants logging to increase by "unshanking" the forest so clear cutting, stream protection and logging road building can happen efficiently. 

 

"Decline in Timber Harvest:

The amount of timber harvested in Montana has declined significantly since the late 1980s. This is partly due to factors such as federal regulations, environmental concerns, and the decline of the traditional logging industry," Google.