I Know I'm Beating A Dead Horse But Bigfoot Deserves Better

[Huntster]

On 4/16/2025 at 12:19 PM, CryptidTalk said:

.......So there is no government conspiracy about hiding the existence of Bigfoot............ 

 

That is correct. But I'm quite confident that there are conspiracies within government to ignore the existence of Sasquatches, and this position extends to active discouragement of discovery on occasion in certain circumstances.

[norseman]

12 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

That is correct. But I'm quite confident that there are conspiracies within government to ignore the existence of Sasquatches, and this position extends to active discouragement of discovery on occasion in certain circumstances.

Welcome back bud!👍

[Huntster]

On 4/16/2025 at 2:32 PM, Backdoc said:

This is the issue:  The purposed conspiracy is the essential ingredient for the government to keep Bigfoot quiet.    The conspiracy requires this efficient, effective government to 1) know Bigfoot exists 2) suppress 3) and have a severe reason why this suppression is necessary.........

 

1) If Sasquatches exist, reporting data alone demands they have existed on Fort Lewis, WA, at some point since the creation of Ft. Lewis as an Army post in 1917 (just 27 years after the end of the American Indian Wars). Reporting data strongly indicates that Ft. Lewis features an enduring population of these creatures passing through on a regular basis, and a century ago might well have had a decent resident population. There are documented reports of soldiers seeing them, and even shooting at them, as well as civilians on and around the post seeing them. Pierce County pretty much has the highest report counts in the BRFO database for the entire continent. The U.S. Army has every tool and asset necessary to "catch" the strongest physical evidence of these creatures, even back in the early days of the post, especially after a half century of chasing Indians around the continent. They also have the ability to do so secretly, both from the knowledge of the public, other government agencies, and even from the knowledge of most of the soldiers and officers on post.

 

2) The Army has a cultural attitude of superiority over their environment and informational security.......to the point of paranoia. It has been this way since even before the beginning of the U.S. Army's existence when it was still the British Army. If field commanders have Sasquatches running around their facilities, reports will reach people with authority, and some of them WILL utilize their assets to find out what is going on, then they WILL report their findings to their superiors. If told to stop their activities and keep their mouths shut, there is more than a fair chance that they will do as instructed.

 

3) Especially since the mid-1960's (50 years after Ft. Lewis was founded, and more than 50 years ago from today), the environmental movement is plenty of reason why a post commander would keep the existence of sasquatches downplayed, if not actively covering their existence up, especially on Army lands. There are also numerous other potential reasons, especially if they have determined that these creatures are primitive humans (as the Indians claim), having gone through Indian Wars for some 500 years now.

 

If Sasquatches exist, some within the U.S. Army know about it. You can take that to the bank. 

[norseman]

 

[FLY]

On a side note ( read that as thread drift) . It always comes up why has no bigfoot bodies or bones been found .  Hominids are the only species  who ritualistically bury their dead

https://www.earth.com/news/homo-naledi-may-have-been-the-first-to-bury-their-dead-200000-years-ago/

 

You know typing that up. The thought occurred to me .  Those mystery log structures that are being found? Has anyone ever searched the ground near them for possible burial sites?

 

 

[norseman]

7 hours ago, FLY said:

On a side note ( read that as thread drift) . It always comes up why has no bigfoot bodies or bones been found .  Hominids are the only species  who ritualistically bury their dead

https://www.earth.com/news/homo-naledi-may-have-been-the-first-to-bury-their-dead-200000-years-ago/

 

You know typing that up. The thought occurred to me .  Those mystery log structures that are being found? Has anyone ever searched the ground near them for possible burial sites?

 

 

Dr. Mayor found Chimp DNA under one in Kentucky. Unfortunately it’s just more questions than answers.

[FLY]

6 hours ago, norseman said:

Dr. Mayor found Chimp DNA under one in Kentucky. Unfortunately it’s just more questions than answers.

Chimps don't build structures do they? The reason I brought it up are that the structures by any stretch of the imagination do not  provide shelter. And would make more sense as a grave monument. Chimp DNA huh? You're right, more questions.  Now I'm wondering about a branch of Chimp species evolving much larger than known types. Have you ever seen the videos of Oliver the Chimp that  walked upright? 

 

[norseman]

4 hours ago, FLY said:

Chimps don't build structures do they? The reason I brought it up are that the structures by any stretch of the imagination do not  provide shelter. And would make more sense as a grave monument. Chimp DNA huh? You're right, more questions.  Now I'm wondering about a branch of Chimp species evolving much larger than known types. Have you ever seen the videos of Oliver the Chimp that  walked upright? 

 

If a Chimp found itself in a colder climate? Maybe?

 

Or something else built it and the runaway Chimp simply utilized it somehow?

 

Or the DNA lab accidentally put a unknown primate dna signature into the Chimp category?

 

I have seen Oliver walk. He was creepy. 
 

I still say the Jacobs creature is a Chimp and not a Bear. I was a houndsman once and was on a houndsman forum and one guy swore up and down that him and his hounds encountered an African Lion on a hunt back east. It ran off and he gathered up his hounds and left. White as a ghost. The eastern woods I think have some strange things running around back there. A long history of zoos and plenty of thick woods to hide in.

 

Lastly? I just thought of this? Maybe some of these stick structures are indeed shelters but the leaves or needles used as the final layer have decayed or blown away and all that remains is the rib supports? They would take a lot longer to rot away. Years. Just a thought.

[norseman]

This is coming up in 2 days. Interesting.

 

 

[Backdoc]

On 4/18/2025 at 8:55 PM, Huntster said:

 

1) If Sasquatches exist, reporting data alone demands they have existed on Fort Lewis, WA, at some point since the creation of Ft. Lewis as an Army post in 1917 (just 27 years after the end of the American Indian Wars). Reporting data strongly indicates that Ft. Lewis features an enduring population of these creatures passing through on a regular basis, and a century ago might well have had a decent resident population. There are documented reports of soldiers seeing them, and even shooting at them,

 

 

Where can I see these documented reports ?

 

 

On 4/18/2025 at 8:55 PM, Huntster said:

 

 

as well as civilians on and around the post seeing them. Pierce County pretty much has the highest report counts in the BRFO database for the entire continent. The U.S. Army has every tool and asset necessary to "catch" the strongest physical evidence of these creatures, even back in the early days of the post, especially after a half century of chasing Indians around the continent. They also have the ability to do so secretly, both from the knowledge of the public, other government agencies, and even from the knowledge of most of the soldiers and officers on post.

 

This is done secretly and yet we all know about it?  Isn't that a bit like the glass that can dissolve all substances in the universe but somehow doesn't dissolve the glass holding the liquid itself?

 

On 4/18/2025 at 8:55 PM, Huntster said:

 

2) The Army has a cultural attitude of superiority over their environment and informational security.......to the point of paranoia. It has been this way since even before the beginning of the U.S. Army's existence when it was still the British Army. If field commanders have Sasquatches running around their facilities, reports will reach people with authority, and some of them WILL utilize their assets to find out what is going on, then they WILL report their findings to their superiors. If told to stop their activities and keep their mouths shut, there is more than a fair chance that they will do as instructed.

 

I had read the Navy had experimented with trying to train dolphins for various tasks even attempting to have them turn into killer attack dolphins to protect our ports and bays.   If the US Miliary could do the same with Bigfoot I am sure they would.  I just don't believe it in this case.

 

 

On 4/18/2025 at 8:55 PM, Huntster said:

 

3) Especially since the mid-1960's (50 years after Ft. Lewis was founded, and more than 50 years ago from today), the environmental movement is plenty of reason why a post commander would keep the existence of sasquatches downplayed, if not actively covering their existence up, especially on Army lands.

 

Couldn't this be they just don't want non authorized people going where they are not supposed to regardless of the motivation of the intruder?  

 

On 4/18/2025 at 8:55 PM, Huntster said:

 

There are also numerous other potential reasons, especially if they have determined that these creatures are primitive humans (as the Indians claim), having gone through Indian Wars for some 500 years now.

 

If Sasquatches exist, some within the U.S. Army know about it. You can take that to the bank. 

 

 

 

#1  I appreciate your efforts to answer my questions.

 

#2  I just don't see the issue of Bigfoot the same way you do.   I am not saying I am right or wrong.  I just don't see it that way.  I could be very wrong.   I really don't know.   If what you say is true, then the behavior you attributed to the government makes some sense to me.  

[norseman]

1 hour ago, Backdoc said:

 

Where can I see these documented reports ?

 

 

 

This is done secretly and yet we all know about it?  Isn't that a bit like the glass that can dissolve all substances in the universe but somehow doesn't dissolve the glass holding the liquid itself?

 

 

I had read the Navy had experimented with trying to train dolphins for various tasks even attempting to have them turn into killer attack dolphins to protect our ports and bays.   If the US Miliary could do the same with Bigfoot I am sure they would.  I just don't believe it in this case.

 

 

 

Couldn't this be they just don't want non authorized people going where they are not supposed to regardless of the motivation of the intruder?  

 

 

 

 

#1  I appreciate your efforts to answer my questions.

 

#2  I just don't see the issue of Bigfoot the same way you do.   I am not saying I am right or wrong.  I just don't see it that way.  I could be very wrong.   I really don't know.   If what you say is true, then the behavior you attributed to the government makes some sense to me.  

They never fear what they CAN control…. They fear what they CANNOT control. 

[Backdoc]

53 minutes ago, norseman said:

They never fear what they CAN control…. They fear what they CANNOT control. 

 

 

I agree 100%.  

 

I still think the issue here is how we define who are "They"  

 

 

[Backdoc]

On 4/18/2025 at 3:50 PM, MIB said:

 

What proof do you offer that this has happened?

 

MIB

 

 

 

 

I said among other things in the post:  "People in power would kill to keep it quiet"

 

You asked, "What proof do you offer that this has happened?"

 

 

I will be glad to reply at length if you are serious.   I would rather not take the time as I assumed most agreed with was pretty self-evident.   

 

To save time can you just answer this:

 

Do you believe People in power would kill to keep something quiet?"

 

[ X ]  Yes ?            

 

[   ]  No  ?