CryptidTalk Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 1 minute ago, NorCalWitness said: witness testimony is enough to convict someone of capital murder. your bar is a false one. That testimony alone is never going to be enough. You have to consider a totality of evidence. Stories are not wholly reliable. If you want to be convinced by a simple story, that’s your right. I require far more conclusive proof to accept fringe theory as reality.
NorCalWitness Posted April 10 Posted April 10 1 minute ago, CryptidTalk said: You’re not spoon feeding anything other than your opinion. You’re providing literally zero proof. Stories are not proof. You are making a claim. I’m asking you to support it with actual evidence and you are failing. Instead of admitting it’s a theory, you want to accuse me of being green, then tuck your tail and run. That really seems, to me, to be an admission that you have no proof. Because if you did, you would have provided it already. He gave you proof in the form of government officials testifying about their experiences and they have evidence. you just seem to think that there is going to be some kind of UAP style motion around this and you are pretending that it is the only valid way to prove it to you. I think your argument is in bad faith. You just signed up here and you are already becoming antagonistic. Seems like you are trolling. Too many new accounts being contentious recently. Just now, CryptidTalk said: That testimony alone is never going to be enough. You have to consider a totality of evidence. Stories are not wholly reliable. If you want to be convinced by a simple story, that’s your right. I require far more conclusive proof to accept fringe theory as reality. go find your proof then. nobody owes you anything. enjoy your search. 1
norseman Posted April 10 Admin Posted April 10 1 minute ago, CryptidTalk said: You’re not spoon feeding anything other than your opinion. You’re providing literally zero proof. Stories are not proof. You are making a claim. I’m asking you to support it with actual evidence and you are failing. Instead of admitting it’s a theory, you want to accuse me of being green, then tuck your tail and run. That really seems, to me, to be an admission that you have no proof. Because if you did, you would have provided it already. You’re completely confused. We are trying to get to PROOF…. You have the cart in front of the horse. How are we supposed to get to the truth with documents like the one below? Bigfoot, UFOs, the JFK assassination, etc. How long have we been trying to get to the bottom of it? And your honestly with a straight face tell me that the government has been transparent with American citizens??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 1 1
NorCalWitness Posted April 10 Posted April 10 15 hours ago, CryptidTalk said: So if this hasn’t been an issue in the past, there would be no reason for them to deny their existence then. You’re not citing any facts to support your case. You’re just making a sort of conspiracy claim. you seem to be missing the point. do you believe they exist?
CryptidTalk Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 Just now, NorCalWitness said: He gave you proof in the form of government officials testifying about their experiences and they have evidence. you just seem to think that there is going to be some kind of UAP style motion around this and you are pretending that it is the only valid way to prove it to you. I think your argument is in bad faith. You just signed up here and you are already becoming antagonistic. Seems like you are trolling. Too many new accounts being contentious recently. How is asking for indisputable proof being antagonistic? I do not consider stories to be wholly reliable. A story alone will never meet the burden of proof for me. I am it requires to accept this theory of a government coverup without evidence I consider strong enough to prove its validity. Circumstantial stories are not nearly enough to prove anything
norseman Posted April 10 Admin Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, CryptidTalk said: That testimony alone is never going to be enough. You have to consider a totality of evidence. Stories are not wholly reliable. If you want to be convinced by a simple story, that’s your right. I require far more conclusive proof to accept fringe theory as reality. WE NEED A BODY. Why do we need a body? Because if a 800 lbs ape man is wandering around our hinterlands??? Somebody at the government is either. A) Completely incompetent. B) They know about it but have chosen to look the other way. And I have already shown you that people in the government KNOW ABOUT IT.
CryptidTalk Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 2 minutes ago, norseman said: You’re completely confused. We are trying to get to PROOF…. You have the cart in front of the horse. How are we supposed to get to the truth with documents like the one below? Bigfoot, UFOs, the JFK assassination, etc. How long have we been trying to get to the bottom of it? And your honestly with a straight face tell me that the government has been transparent with American citizens??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’ve never said the words that I believe the government is transparent with the citizenry. But you are discussing from a viewpoint that this specific topic of coverup is a fact when it has not been proven as such. You have not provided sufficient evidence to meet the burden of proof for me to be in agreement on that stance. I do not believe there is any sort of cover up. As such, I fully reject NorCal’s theory that proving Bigfoot’s existence to science is not important. 4 minutes ago, NorCalWitness said: you seem to be missing the point. do you believe they exist? I believe they exist, yes. I do not believe the government knows about them and is hiding them in some sort of conspiracy.
norseman Posted April 10 Admin Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, CryptidTalk said: How is asking for indisputable proof being antagonistic? I do not consider stories to be wholly reliable. A story alone will never meet the burden of proof for me. I am it requires to accept this theory of a government coverup without evidence I consider strong enough to prove its validity. Circumstantial stories are not nearly enough to prove anything Because witness testimony is never “indisputable proof”. Are you really saying this with a straight face.
norseman Posted April 10 Admin Posted April 10 4 minutes ago, CryptidTalk said: I’ve never said the words that I believe the government is transparent with the citizenry. But you are discussing from a viewpoint that this specific topic of coverup is a fact when it has not been proven as such. You have not provided sufficient evidence to meet the burden of proof for me to be in agreement on that stance. I do not believe there is any sort of cover up. As such, I fully reject NorCal’s theory that proving Bigfoot’s existence to science is not important. I believe they exist, yes. I do not believe the government knows about them and is hiding them in some sort of conspiracy. Why do you believe they exist? What proof do you have? You were in the military yes? How on Earth has the government not detected a 800 lbs ape man? Border Patrol, DOD, FBI, CIA, ICE. How many thermals are watching our borders right now? DO THE MATH! And SCIENCE and the GOVERNMENT are NOT the same!!!
CryptidTalk Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 6 minutes ago, norseman said: the government is A) Completely incompetent. This is the answer. People within the government knowing about them is not proof of a coverup. It’s just proof that they experienced something. The government is an entity. A few people with government positions having experiences doesn’t equate to a coverup. 5 minutes ago, norseman said: Because witness testimony is never “indisputable proof”. Are you really saying this with a straight face. Of course I’m saying that with a straight face. People are capable of lying or misrepresenting/misremembering details. It is not fully reliable.
norseman Posted April 10 Admin Posted April 10 1 minute ago, CryptidTalk said: This is the answer. People within the government knowing about them is not proof of a coverup. It’s just proof that they experienced something. The government is an entity. A few people with government positions having experiences doesn’t equate to a coverup. LMAO! You keep telling yourself that.
NorCalWitness Posted April 10 Posted April 10 11 minutes ago, CryptidTalk said: I’ve never said the words that I believe the government is transparent with the citizenry. But you are discussing from a viewpoint that this specific topic of coverup is a fact when it has not been proven as such. You have not provided sufficient evidence to meet the burden of proof for me to be in agreement on that stance. I do not believe there is any sort of cover up. As such, I fully reject NorCal’s theory that proving Bigfoot’s existence to science is not important. I believe they exist, yes. I do not believe the government knows about them and is hiding them in some sort of conspiracy. then I have to side with Norse here. you seem really green and have some catching up to do. enjoy, the journey is long and interesting. 1
CryptidTalk Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 4 minutes ago, norseman said: Why do you believe they exist? What proof do you have? You were in the military yes? How on Earth has the government not detected a 800 lbs ape man? Border Patrol, DOD, FBI, CIA, ICE. How many thermals are watching our borders right now? DO THE MATH! And SCIENCE and the GOVERNMENT are NOT the same!!! For me, burden of proof has been met to verify the validity of the PG film. Along with Dr. Meldrum’s various assessment of prints and locomotion. Again, the government is an entity. A singular person in the military does not represent the “government”. There is too much red tape and bureaucracy. The entity itself is too busy with other things to worry about new species of animals. They’ll acknowledge it when science does. What reasons do they have to cover up its existence?
norseman Posted April 10 Admin Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, CryptidTalk said: This is the answer. People within the government knowing about them is not proof of a coverup. It’s just proof that they experienced something. The government is an entity. A few people with government positions having experiences doesn’t equate to a coverup. Of course I’m saying that with a straight face. People are capable of lying or misrepresenting/misremembering details. It is not fully reliable. More importantly? It will never be indisputable proof. Your making a straw man argument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#:~:text=A straw man fallacy (sometimes,"attacking a straw man". We started with you asking for testimony. Which I gave you. Now you want an ape man on a slab. Which is the only indisputable proof…..
CryptidTalk Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, norseman said: LMAO! You keep telling yourself that. Then provide actual, indisputable proof that I am wrong. 1 minute ago, NorCalWitness said: then I have to side with Norse here. you seem really green and have some catching up to do. enjoy, the journey is long and interesting. I’m green because I don’t believe a fringe theory with no proof? 1
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