What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?

[Huntster]

1 hour ago, night912 said:

I agree that it's your opinion, but what i said isn't my opinion. It's facts.........

 

This is not a "fact". It's an opinion, and a pretty arrogant one at that:

 

15 hours ago, night912 said:

You're seeing things that you want to see that's actually not there...........

 

[Huntster]

7 hours ago, Backdoc said:

What is their position of the US Forrest Service...?

 

The short answer is this:  They support things that are proven like wolves and bears.  Things that are unproven are just unproven.  They can't be expectedly to have an official position on the subject or any subject that remains unproven...........

 

They often support biologic facts and are overruled by popular opinion or the courts: 

 

https://alaskapublic.org/news/environment/2025-05-14/after-11-more-bears-killed-judge-orders-stop-to-alaska-predator-control-program

 

They also research things that are "unproven" in order to prove it:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_biology

 

They will NOT, however, research ANY Sasquatch reports. None. Zip. Nada. 

 

The local police might, though that doesn't work with "Science":

 

https://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=2599

Edited Monday at 11:41 PM by Huntster

[OntarioSquatch]

I don’t know about the Forest Service, but it seems there’s been people in the US government leaking info to Tom DeLonge of Blink-182 on bigfoot and aliens in an attempt to disclose info to the public. Supposedly they have DNA evidence that they have trouble decoding. DeLonge calls the phenomenon “The Wildmen” and believes it involves the paranormal. I haven’t seen any updates on it since he released the news.

 

 

[georgerm]

22 hours ago, OntarioSquatch said:

I don’t know about the Forest Service, but it seems there’s been people in the US government leaking info to Tom DeLonge of Blink-182 on bigfoot and aliens in an attempt to disclose info to the public. Supposedly they have DNA evidence that they have trouble decoding. DeLonge calls the phenomenon “The Wildmen” and believes it involves the paranormal. I haven’t seen any updates on it since he released the news.

 

 

 

What does Tom know about paranormal bigfoots? We do have a section on UFO reports and I haven't snooped around there yet. If you go to a 'Flash of Beauty' and find two fellows from Coquille, Oregon. One has a blue shirt and a slender man has a red shirt and they speak of a paranormal bigfoot that they ran across on a mountain road. 

[OntarioSquatch]

He claims they’re able to disappear at will. I’m personally skeptical, but I remember Dr. John B. Alexander (a retired US colonel) said something similar in his book ‘Reality Denied’. He has top security clearances and claims that Sasquatch aren’t entirely flesh and blood beings. He often tries to teach people that many of these unexplained phenomena (e.g. UFOs, Bigfoot, Psychic Ability) are related and require a holistic approach to solving them.
 

I really wish DeLonge would come out and reveal everything rather than leak stuff through fictional works while trying to make money off of it. So far he hasn’t done a good job at educating the public about what he’s learned from the US government. I read his first two non-fiction books on UFOs and found them not very helpful.

[night912]

On 6/16/2025 at 6:29 PM, Huntster said:

This is not a "fact". It's an opinion, and a pretty arrogant one at that:

Sorry that you can't handle the truth, but it's not problem. It's not arrogant to present the fact that your opinion about the Forest Service's statement is you seeing what you want it to be instead of what's literally stated. It's not an opinion if that's what he statement literally says. 

 

On 6/5/2025 at 7:57 PM, Huntster said:

 

This is an interesting statement. In short, they disregard potential existence (notice the wording "don't formally confirm"), yet still point out that an ideology of preservation would benefit such creatures should they actually exist.

 

Enjoying everybody's cake while discouraging (not denying) the possibility that cake actually exists?

The statement below is the one that your opinion is about. 

On 6/5/2025 at 1:33 PM, georgerm said:

While they don't formally confirm Bigfoot's existence, they maintain open spaces and wildlife habitat on their lands, which could potentially include habitat for such a creature.

That does not say that they disregard potential existence like what you claimed. There's nothing in the statement that demonstrates that they're discouraging the possibility that it exists like what you claimed. 

 

So, no, what I said isn't an opinion. It's facts 

[night912]

On 6/16/2025 at 10:55 AM, Backdoc said:

What is their position of the US Forrest Service...?

 

 

The short answer is this:  They support things that are proven like wolves and bears.  Things that are unproven are just unproven.  They can't be expected to have an official position on the subject or any subject that remains unproven.   

 

On 6/16/2025 at 6:41 PM, Huntster said:

 

They often support biologic facts and are overruled by popular opinion or the courts: 

 

https://alaskapublic.org/news/environment/2025-05-14/after-11-more-bears-killed-judge-orders-stop-to-alaska-predator-control-program

 

They also research things that are "unproven" in order to prove it:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_biology

 

They will NOT, however, research ANY Sasquatch reports. None. Zip. Nada. 

 

The local police might, though that doesn't work with "Science":

 

https://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=2599

Sorry, but posting irrelevant things isn't going to support your argument. 

[Huntster]

9 hours ago, night912 said:

Sorry that you can't handle the truth, but it's not problem..........

 

..........So, no, what I said isn't an opinion. It's facts 

 

You posted:

 

On 6/16/2025 at 12:03 AM, night912 said:

You're seeing things that you want to see that's actually not there. They clearly stated their position regarding the existence of Bigfoot. Although they deny the existence of Bigfoot, they don't deny that it's possible for the existence of Bigfoot. The discouraging part that you spoke of, is all in your head. 

 

That is opinion, not fact. I stated my experience. You can accept it or not, but you cannot claim your opinion as fact. 

 

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......... It's not arrogant to present the fact that your opinion about the Forest Service's statement is you seeing what you want it to be instead of what's literally stated. It's not an opinion if that's what he statement literally says.........

 

But I consider it arrogant that you would publlcly post that I'm seeing things that are not actually there and is all in my head.

 

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........The statement below is the one that your opinion is about.

 

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..........While they don't formally confirm Bigfoot's existence, they maintain open spaces and wildlife habitat on their lands, which could potentially include habitat for such a creature.

 

That does not say that they disregard potential existence like what you claimed. There's nothing in the statement that demonstrates that they're discouraging the possibility that it exists like what you claimed. 

 

But that statement, too, is factual: It is not opinion. The U.S. Forest Service:

 

1) Does not confirm Bigfoot's existence

2) They maintain open spaces and wildlife habitat therein

3) And those lands could potentially include habitat for such a creature should it exist

 

Isn't that true?

 

[Backdoc]

The Question of the thread will probably create a continued spirited debate.  I'm staying out of that one. 

 

Let me try to take this somewhere toward a solution.  Let's assume a few things here:

 

Assume 1) Bigfoot exists and 2) the Government (whomever that may be) is covering it all up.  

 

What is the solution to this?

 

The solution can only be the capture of a live Bigfoot or the killing of a Bigfoot to have a body on the slab.   Produce Bigfoot for all to see and it's going to be pretty hard to continue any cover-up.  

 

I don't happen to think the government really cares about this issue as most of you can gather.   But for those who do, the only way to pop that bubble is to have someone OUTSIDE that circle capture or kill one.   If someone shot a Bigfoot, the cell phone alone would cause the story to spread like wildfire.   Pic, a video, and so on would be a near perfect defense.  It probably makes it too late for government to grab the body and cart it off to Area 51.  Sure, that same government might use hunting laws to jail the guy.  But the horse would have already left the barn.   The guy might be fined or jailed the Bigfoot would no longer be a secret.    

 

I would rather people didn't put Bigfoot in a zoo or kill one.  But until one of those things happen, I don't see this changing.  A Government who doesn't care or A Government who does can only be changed by a body.  

 

A body solves the problem.

 

 

[Huntster]

44 minutes ago, Backdoc said:

........Assume 1) Bigfoot exists and 2) the Government (whomever that may be) is covering it all up.  

 

What is the solution to this?

 

The solution can only be the capture of a live Bigfoot or the killing of a Bigfoot to have a body on the slab........

I suggest that, too, is opinion, not a fact.