What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?

[Huntster]

10 hours ago, norseman said:

........Instead of being an alien race cohabiting our galaxy? They are humans from the distant future. Time travelers. Or another sentient Earth species older than ourselves that comes back from time to time to check on the home world..........

 

Since deep space travel for physical/biological entities would require time travel, this is a very valid possibility. 

[norseman]

2 hours ago, Backdoc said:

^^^

 

Life could very well be out there.   Even if there is advanced life, why would our galaxy and esp our very solar system been interesting to them?

 

Out of all the grains of sand on the beach, what is so unique about our one grain of sand out of the Gazillions.

 

 

We are to believe there is life all over the universe.  If such life is out there looking AND such life is all over the universe then it seems there are other more interesting planets competing with Earth.  Say there are 100,000,000,000,000 earths out there.  Wouldn't we have to take out an ad in Alien Visitor Magazine to get their attention?  

 

I guess I call it the "Needle in the haystack" reasoning.   

 

Still, I keep an open mind about it.

 

 

 

• Chuck Noland: That's a search area of 500,000 square miles. That's twice the size of Texas. They may never find us.

 

Remember this Pale Blue Dot is just a pic from Voyager looking back at Earth while STILL in our own solar system.

 

 

Maybe Elon can explain it better. Don't ask why would they come here. Ask how long would it take for an advanced species to visit every solar system in the galaxy and possibly others close by. Also Google Von Neumann Probe.
 

 

[FLY]

On 7/28/2025 at 10:16 AM, Backdoc said:

^^^

 

Life could very well be out there.   Even if there is advanced life, why would our galaxy and esp our very solar system been interesting to them?

 

Out of all the grains of sand on the beach, what is so unique about our one grain of sand out of the Gazillions.

 

 

We are to believe there is life all over the universe.  If such life is out there looking AND such life is all over the universe then it seems there are other more interesting planets competing with Earth.  Say there are 100,000,000,000,000 earths out there.  Wouldn't we have to take out an ad in Alien Visitor Magazine to get their attention?  

 

I guess I call it the "Needle in the haystack" reasoning.   

 

Still, I keep an open mind about it.

 

 

 

• Chuck Noland: That's a search area of 500,000 square miles. That's twice the size of Texas. They may never find us.

 

Remember this Pale Blue Dot is just a pic from Voyager looking back at Earth while STILL in our own solar system.

 

 

Even if life abounds throughout the universe. It would still be the rarest of resources. Our pale blue dot, while visually  inseparable from millions of other pale blue dots is emitting  radio waves like a minor Pulsar.  We would stand out like a sore thumb to some alien radio telescope. 

    I would hope that the aliens , observing us through that radio telescope . Given that they possessed the means of interstellar flight would come here in the interest of discovery, science and the welcoming hand of peace and brotherhood of fellow living creatures.

    Or they would eat us. 

[Trogluddite]

^^^

Not a radio-astronomer, but I read somewhere recently that radio and television waves degrade significantly with distance.  At one light-year, they're 1/2 strength, at 2 light years, 1/4 strength, and so forth to the point where at any likely distance that there is other intelligent life, our TV and radio signals are indistinguishable from background noises.  Thus, it is unlikely that the Thermians are watching reruns of Gilligan's Island and thinking that it's Earth's cultural history.

 

Even if a species were flying by in an advanced spacecraft, would they bother to stop?  On a hike, do we stop at every anthill and try to communicate?  Unfortunately, I think its far more likely that they would strip mine the planet or demolish it to make way for an intergalactic on-ramp (and no, I didn't find that book particularly funny).  

[Backdoc]

^^^

I appreciate the various perspectives here.

 

 

This Alien thing is about the numbers:

 

 

 

 

 

Let's say EARTH is the Goldfish. 

 

 

If the life wanted to get here or accidently got here it would have to have the means and luck to get here:

 

ET.  "Hey, there is only 1.  That is easy to find"  

 

If there are these large numbers of life out there, all of those planets are competing for attention.   

 

ET  "Look at all those planets.  Interesting.  Where do we start?"   Here is a 1 in 50 chance they even find earth.

 

 

 

 

Now let's make the ocean bigger.

 

ET  "Wow, you expect me to find a single goldfish called Earth in that vast ocean?"

 

 

 

 

There comes a point where numbers just make it hard to accept.  Then again, some say, an "infinite number of typewriters and an infinite number of monkeys eventually types the works of Shakespeare".  

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:36 PM by Backdoc

[Huntster]

11 hours ago, FLY said:

Even if life abounds throughout the universe. It would still be the rarest of resources.........

 

Well written. I'm of the firm belief that life is the most precious gift in the universe.

[norseman]

13 hours ago, FLY said:

Even if life abounds throughout the universe. It would still be the rarest of resources. Our pale blue dot, while visually  inseparable from millions of other pale blue dots is emitting  radio waves like a minor Pulsar.  We would stand out like a sore thumb to some alien radio telescope. 

    I would hope that the aliens , observing us through that radio telescope . Given that they possessed the means of interstellar flight would come here in the interest of discovery, science and the welcoming hand of peace and brotherhood of fellow living creatures.

    Or they would eat us. 

Currently watching this on Netflix. Makes you think.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Body_Problem_(TV_series)

[FLY]

16 hours ago, Trogluddite said:

^^^

Not a radio-astronomer, but I read somewhere recently that radio and television waves degrade significantly with distance.  At one light-year, they're 1/2 strength, at 2 light years, 1/4 strength, and so forth to the point where at any likely distance that there is other intelligent life, our TV and radio signals are indistinguishable from background noises.  Thus, it is unlikely that the Thermians are watching reruns of Gilligan's Island and thinking that it's Earth's cultural history.

 

Even if a species were flying by in an advanced spacecraft, would they bother to stop?  On a hike, do we stop at every anthill and try to communicate?  Unfortunately, I think its far more likely that they would strip mine the planet or demolish it to make way for an intergalactic on-ramp (and no, I didn't find that book particularly funny).  

"Approximately 200 light-years
HOW FAR INTO SPACE ARE RADIO ANDTV SIGNALS
Human radio and TV signals have traveled approximately 200 light-years into space. This distance is a small fraction of the Milky Way galaxy's diameter, which is estimated to be between 100,000 to 180,000 light-years. The radio signals have reached a sphere that can be seen by 75 star systems that can also see us, and these systems have been observed to host exoplanets. The extent of these signals is a testament to humanity's technological advancements and the vastness of the universe. 
Discover Magazine"

    This would be based on current human technology. For a civilization capable of interstellar flight, Who knows. 

    There are planets composed of any mineral that exists. I remember reading a few years back about a exo planet they found that spectrograph showed to be all diamond. 

comets are composed of frozen water and noble gases.  Trust me on this  The only resource on this planet they will be interested in is living creatures
 

[FLY]

Actually. They've probably always been visiting here