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10 hours ago, norseman said:

........Instead of being an alien race cohabiting our galaxy? They are humans from the distant future. Time travelers. Or another sentient Earth species older than ourselves that comes back from time to time to check on the home world..........

 

Since deep space travel for physical/biological entities would require time travel, this is a very valid possibility. 

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2 hours ago, Backdoc said:

^^^

 

Life could very well be out there.   Even if there is advanced life, why would our galaxy and esp our very solar system been interesting to them?

 

Out of all the grains of sand on the beach, what is so unique about our one grain of sand out of the Gazillions.

 

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We are to believe there is life all over the universe.  If such life is out there looking AND such life is all over the universe then it seems there are other more interesting planets competing with Earth.  Say there are 100,000,000,000,000 earths out there.  Wouldn't we have to take out an ad in Alien Visitor Magazine to get their attention?  

 

I guess I call it the "Needle in the haystack" reasoning.   

 

Still, I keep an open mind about it.

 

 

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  • Chuck Noland: That's a search area of 500,000 square miles. That's twice the size of Texas. They may never find us.

 

Remember this Pale Blue Dot is just a pic from Voyager looking back at Earth while STILL in our own solar system.

 

 

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Maybe Elon can explain it better. Don't ask why would they come here. Ask how long would it take for an advanced species to visit every solar system in the galaxy and possibly others close by. Also Google Von Neumann Probe.
 

 

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On 7/28/2025 at 10:16 AM, Backdoc said:

^^^

 

Life could very well be out there.   Even if there is advanced life, why would our galaxy and esp our very solar system been interesting to them?

 

Out of all the grains of sand on the beach, what is so unique about our one grain of sand out of the Gazillions.

 

Image result for pale blue dot

 

We are to believe there is life all over the universe.  If such life is out there looking AND such life is all over the universe then it seems there are other more interesting planets competing with Earth.  Say there are 100,000,000,000,000 earths out there.  Wouldn't we have to take out an ad in Alien Visitor Magazine to get their attention?  

 

I guess I call it the "Needle in the haystack" reasoning.   

 

Still, I keep an open mind about it.

 

 

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  • Chuck Noland: That's a search area of 500,000 square miles. That's twice the size of Texas. They may never find us.

 

Remember this Pale Blue Dot is just a pic from Voyager looking back at Earth while STILL in our own solar system.

 

 

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Even if life abounds throughout the universe. It would still be the rarest of resources. Our pale blue dot, while visually  inseparable from millions of other pale blue dots is emitting  radio waves like a minor Pulsar.  We would stand out like a sore thumb to some alien radio telescope. 

    I would hope that the aliens , observing us through that radio telescope . Given that they possessed the means of interstellar flight would come here in the interest of discovery, science and the welcoming hand of peace and brotherhood of fellow living creatures.

    Or they would eat us. 

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Not a radio-astronomer, but I read somewhere recently that radio and television waves degrade significantly with distance.  At one light-year, they're 1/2 strength, at 2 light years, 1/4 strength, and so forth to the point where at any likely distance that there is other intelligent life, our TV and radio signals are indistinguishable from background noises.  Thus, it is unlikely that the Thermians are watching reruns of Gilligan's Island and thinking that it's Earth's cultural history.

 

Even if a species were flying by in an advanced spacecraft, would they bother to stop?  On a hike, do we stop at every anthill and try to communicate?  Unfortunately, I think its far more likely that they would strip mine the planet or demolish it to make way for an intergalactic on-ramp (and no, I didn't find that book particularly funny).  

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^^^

I appreciate the various perspectives here.

 

 

This Alien thing is about the numbers:

 

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Let's say EARTH is the Goldfish. 

 

 

If the life wanted to get here or accidently got here it would have to have the means and luck to get here:

 

ET.  "Hey, there is only 1.  That is easy to find"  

 

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If there are these large numbers of life out there, all of those planets are competing for attention.   

 

ET  "Look at all those planets.  Interesting.  Where do we start?"   Here is a 1 in 50 chance they even find earth.

 

 

SEASCAPES 'GOLD FISH' AQUARIUM | goldfish set up - YouTube

 

 

Now let's make the ocean bigger.

 

ET  "Wow, you expect me to find a single goldfish called Earth in that vast ocean?"

 

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There comes a point where numbers just make it hard to accept.  Then again, some say, an "infinite number of typewriters and an infinite number of monkeys eventually types the works of Shakespeare".  

 

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11 hours ago, FLY said:

Even if life abounds throughout the universe. It would still be the rarest of resources.........

 

Well written. I'm of the firm belief that life is the most precious gift in the universe.

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13 hours ago, FLY said:

Even if life abounds throughout the universe. It would still be the rarest of resources. Our pale blue dot, while visually  inseparable from millions of other pale blue dots is emitting  radio waves like a minor Pulsar.  We would stand out like a sore thumb to some alien radio telescope. 

    I would hope that the aliens , observing us through that radio telescope . Given that they possessed the means of interstellar flight would come here in the interest of discovery, science and the welcoming hand of peace and brotherhood of fellow living creatures.

    Or they would eat us. 


Currently watching this on Netflix. Makes you think.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Body_Problem_(TV_series)

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16 hours ago, Trogluddite said:

^^^

Not a radio-astronomer, but I read somewhere recently that radio and television waves degrade significantly with distance.  At one light-year, they're 1/2 strength, at 2 light years, 1/4 strength, and so forth to the point where at any likely distance that there is other intelligent life, our TV and radio signals are indistinguishable from background noises.  Thus, it is unlikely that the Thermians are watching reruns of Gilligan's Island and thinking that it's Earth's cultural history.

 

Even if a species were flying by in an advanced spacecraft, would they bother to stop?  On a hike, do we stop at every anthill and try to communicate?  Unfortunately, I think its far more likely that they would strip mine the planet or demolish it to make way for an intergalactic on-ramp (and no, I didn't find that book particularly funny).  

"Approximately 200 light-years
HOW FAR INTO SPACE ARE RADIO ANDTV SIGNALS
Human radio and TV signals have traveled approximately 200 light-years into space. This distance is a small fraction of the Milky Way galaxy's diameter, which is estimated to be between 100,000 to 180,000 light-years. The radio signals have reached a sphere that can be seen by 75 star systems that can also see us, and these systems have been observed to host exoplanets. The extent of these signals is a testament to humanity's technological advancements and the vastness of the universe. 
Discover Magazine"

    This would be based on current human technology. For a civilization capable of interstellar flight, Who knows. 

    There are planets composed of any mineral that exists. I remember reading a few years back about a exo planet they found that spectrograph showed to be all diamond. 

comets are composed of frozen water and noble gases.  Trust me on this  The only resource on this planet they will be interested in is living creatures
 

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Actually. They've probably always been visiting here

 

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  On 7/27/2025 at 10:16 PM, norseman said:

........Instead of being an alien race cohabiting our galaxy? They are humans from the distant future. Time travelers. Or another sentient Earth species older than ourselves that comes back from time to time to check on the home world..........

hunster said:  Since deep space travel for physical/biological entities would require time travel, this isIa very valid possibility. 

 

"Time travel is the hypothetical activity of traveling into the past or future. Time travel is a concept in philosophy and fiction, particularly science fiction. In fiction, time travel is typically achieved through the use of a device known as a time machine. The idea of a time machine was popularized by H. G. Wells's 1895 novel The Time Machine.[1]" google

 

SOME CAN AGREE THAT WE ARE BEING VISITED BY SPECIES THAT ARE WAY MORE ADVANCED WE ARE AND HOW THIS HAS TO DO WITH TIME TRAVEL IS ANOTHER COMPLICATION THAT I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH AT THIS TIME. I WATCHED THE TRAVIS WALTON STORY AGAIN THAT SHOWS WE ARE BEING VISITED BY ADVANCED ALIEN SPECIES AND HIS ABDUCTION BY ONE OF SEVERAL ALIEN SPECIES WAS WITNESSED BY SEVERAL MEN IN HIS LOGGING CREW AND WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BIGFOOT? "  

 

"The idea of a connection between Bigfoot and aliens is a popular theory among some enthusiasts, suggesting Bigfoot might be extraterrestrial, a hybrid with extraterrestrials (NEPHLIM), or connected to other paranormal phenomena like UFOThis theory is fueled by reported sightings of Bigfoot coinciding with UFO sightings and other unexplained events in the wilderness,"  GOOGLE.

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2 hours ago, georgerm said:

 

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  On 7/27/2025 at 10:16 PM, norseman said:

........Instead of being an alien race cohabiting our galaxy? They are humans from the distant future. Time travelers. Or another sentient Earth species older than ourselves that comes back from time to time to check on the home world..........

hunster said:  Since deep space travel for physical/biological entities would require time travel, this isIa very valid possibility. 

 

"Time travel is the hypothetical activity of traveling into the past or future. Time travel is a concept in philosophy and fiction, particularly science fiction. In fiction, time travel is typically achieved through the use of a device known as a time machine. The idea of a time machine was popularized by H. G. Wells's 1895 novel The Time Machine.[1]" google

 

SOME CAN AGREE THAT WE ARE BEING VISITED BY SPECIES THAT ARE WAY MORE ADVANCED WE ARE AND HOW THIS HAS TO DO WITH TIME TRAVEL IS ANOTHER COMPLICATION THAT I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH AT THIS TIME. I WATCHED THE TRAVIS WALTON STORY AGAIN THAT SHOWS WE ARE BEING VISITED BY ADVANCED ALIEN SPECIES AND HIS ABDUCTION BY ONE OF SEVERAL ALIEN SPECIES WAS WITNESSED BY SEVERAL MEN IN HIS LOGGING CREW AND WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BIGFOOT? "  

 

"The idea of a connection between Bigfoot and aliens is a popular theory among some enthusiasts, suggesting Bigfoot might be extraterrestrial, a hybrid with extraterrestrials (NEPHLIM), or connected to other paranormal phenomena like UFOThis theory is fueled by reported sightings of Bigfoot coinciding with UFO sightings and other unexplained events in the wilderness,"  GOOGLE.


I am aware. And anything is possible. But I guess I don't like my peas in my mashed spuds. Each cryptid in its own category!

 

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12 hours ago, norseman said:

........anything is possible. But I guess I don't like my peas in my mashed spuds. Each cryptid in its own category.............

 

The whole thing about linking sasquatchery with extraterrestrial visitors fits the "anything is possible" line, and I suppose that's why it became "a thing", but IMHO it's just a foolish distraction. Keeping sasquatches within the taxonomic primate order keeps it closer to established reality and better fits Occam's Razor. It also keeps the phenomenon within the thread's discussion of the USFS without the need to expand it to NASA, DoD, etc. It also helps us fear sasquatches as only capable of tearing us apart without bringing in questions about technology like ray guns, gravity bombs, and phasers. 

 

More appropriate than extraterrestrial science fiction is the religious/spiritual aspect of sasquatchery, especially that related to aboriginal spirituality. I again refer to Richard Nelson's incredible book Make Prayers to the Raven: A Koyukon View of the Northern Forest, not just for its inclusion of sasquatchery, but for its overall explanation of aboriginal spirituality, both pre-contact and today after a few centuries of evolution after contact. Even that education can illustrate why government currently advocates a policy of continued non-contact with uncontacted peoples.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Make-Prayers-Raven-Koyukon-Northern/dp/0226571637

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples

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What do you think of the US Forest Services view on Bigfoot that was the original topic, and we have drifted in outer space way past this topic so maybe we had better bring it back to or more Earth related phenomena that we can explain. I’ve been listening to many of the podcast that are now related to Bigfoot, and many of them are just flesh and blood accounts, but now about half of them involved the woo factor.  I have been extremely lucky and had both types of experiences. My first one was definitely up close,  flesh and blood and see my drawing listed under northwest encounters.  Another midnight distorted visual experience that happened way up the deserted Elk River in an Oregon primitive campground started way after sundown with unreal bird calls moving instanteously from a distanbush 200' away to a bush next to me happened that had a woo factor that I couldn’t explain. This was the last straw so I really just stopped in my tracks and ceased wasting my time on studying Bigfoot for a year or two.

 

 If we listen to some of Tom Powell’s accounts who was the teacher from Portland Oregon, most of his accounts are flesh and blood, but he has some that describes Bigfoot walking away from an observer and disappearing in the thin air. We cannot deny these accounts from normal people and just toss them into the trash can. The woo factor may be the reason why the Forest Service is quiet on the topic of Bigfoot, and I know they have top wildlife biologist who are well aware of this creature but have they been silenced due to many reasons such as woo factor ridicule and new laws reducing timber production. They probably monitor this website and post with special call names or even post at times.

 

Top wildlife biologist working for the Forest Service might have decided that Bigfoot is a supernatural phenomena that transcends all the other wildlife then they dare not publish this in fear of losing a cushy job. There could also be down to Earth  reasons why they don’t come out and publish what their wildlife biologists have discovered about Sasquatch which are actual counts of Bigfoot’s behavior in the forest. We have seen what other endangered species have done to logging production and when an animal that is endangered populates prime logging forest it stymies wood  production that has a downturn on local economies. My personal opinion is bigfoot and sustained yield timber production and bigfoot get along fine since open logged areas brings in more deer that keep bigfoot fat and happy.

 

If there is a real woo factor to Bigfoot and the Forest Service wildlife biologist have observed this, can you imagine the effect it would have on their careers and the public if they were allowed to publish this. The first thing that would probably happen is President Trump would replace the Forest Service director, bigfoot would not be labeled as real or an endangered species and logging would go on as usual.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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