What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?

[norseman]

 

[socialBigfoot]

13 hours ago, norseman said:

I watched this Talk About Strange video for the flir footage and then kept watching for the conspiracy theory. The conspiracy part of the video helps me understand why a government agency like USFS doesn't acknowledge Bigfoot. 

 

I'm not familiar with this channel but I soon became confused about why the host was confused about his story regarding a woman claiming to have birthed bigfoot's daughter (and similar videos) has not gone viral and viewed by millions of people. He then implied there must be a conspiracy to blunt him as a deliverer of this important information. He goes on to suggest a malware issue on his high-end technology is further evidence that someone or some group is trying to silence him.

  

I honestly wasn't sure if he was serious about all this. Stories of Bigfoot boinking humans have been around for a while. There's a whole fiction genre about this stuff. I'm not judging whether such things actually happen, but, culturally, it's generally believed that human-Bigfoot hybrids walking among us are not a real thing, and if a person believes that they are, then that person is probably not right in the head. There are similar fringe beliefs in the UFO community on human-alien hybrids.

 

If the USFS were to say "Yes, Bigfoot are real", then for most of the population this is also saying "Yes, Bigfoot-human hybrids are real, too." I agree that the economic impacts of endangered species plays a role, but I would argue the bigger influence on USFS's silence is maintaining an image of a legitimate and rational federal agency.
     
I'm sure this channel host is sincere and works hard on his content, but he seems too eager to believe stories that people send to him. This just makes him an easy mark for a hoaxer or anyone looking for attention. 

 

[guyzonthropus]

After reading through this thread, it strikes me that if sasquatch were "but a mere wood ape" and the government knew of it, as seems to be the concensus, it would have been acknowledged long ago. There would be no big deal if there was a large American forest gorilla species. Which then compels one to reason there must be considerably more to it.

 

The foot morphology certainly seems to point to a far more human creature, as does the bipedal walking, and apparently opposable thumbs. And then there's its apparent cognitive abilities, as seen in their knack for stealth and existing on the periphery of our towns and cities. Then there's the evidence of language development, another indicator of a higher sentience. And that's not even touching on the elements of woo...

 

But in light of the silence, its difficult to presume just how the feds view these creatures, but I'd hazard the guess that they know a good deal more about them than most of us do.....

[bipedalist]

On 8/2/2025 at 5:13 PM, norseman said:

I will bump this again. As it got no response. How is it we have leaked aerial FLIR footage of an alleged Sasquatch? Has any government entity came out with details? This is rather germane to the topic at hand. And it’s rather similar to what’s happening in the other mystery field that shall remain nameless. Because I don’t want to derail the topic again.

 

Which episode leaked FLIR footage of Sasquatch, all I saw was a wannabe Youtube creator whining about why he didn't have more hits and money?!

[norseman]

2 hours ago, bipedalist said:

 

Which episode leaked FLIR footage of Sasquatch, all I saw was a wannabe Youtube creator whining about why he didn't have more hits and money?!

It’s at the very start of the video. He gives credit to flash of beauty. It’s an aerial FLIR video.

[NathanFooter]

 I know a few state wildlife officials and forest service personnel, my take is some know ( those who have been a long time or need to know ) and some do not. 

[Huntster]

1 hour ago, NathanFooter said:

 I know a few state wildlife officials and forest service personnel, my take is some know ( those who have been a long time or need to know ) and some do not. 

 

This is similar to my experience. I don't know any USFS or state forestry personnel, but I do know or have spoken with numerous ADFG biologists or other personnel over the years about numerous issues. Those who have had professional exposure to the phenomenon know, but usually portray cautious curiosity, but other personnel scoff, so those who know don't talk........or talk "under the table". This is similar to the animosity between ADFG and more than one federal agency in Alaska about numerous issues. Those who must struggle with the opposing agency do so, and those who don't keep quiet about issues. This professional behavior mirrors what I experienced within DoD. You quickly learn what to openly discuss, and what to keep quiet about, even with non-classified information.

[Backdoc]

22 hours ago, guyzonthropus said:

After reading through this thread, it strikes me that if sasquatch were "but a mere wood ape" and the government knew of it, as seems to be the concensus, it would have been acknowledged long ago.

 

We again need to talk about two issues here:

 

1)  What does it mean or how do we define what the Government knowing Bigfoot exists means?

 

Until we have a body, people in government -and people who are not in government - are not going to step up and say Bigfoot exists.   It makes sense as the issue is largely governed by science.  Science is supposed to be determined by the scientific method being testable and requiting proof.  Finally, the politics of those in Academia are likely to promote those who share their consensus and look down upon those who go against that consensus.   This is why one of the skeptic scientists on Discovery Channel said of Dr. Jeff Meldrum, "He is brave" to study this issue.  It would seem to me in today's world the default position is, "Bigfoot is unproven to exist"

 

 

2)  Who is the government?

 

Those who talk of the government seem to really be saying a government is some groupthink of people with some unified purpose to keep bigfoot quiet.  That is, they have some proof of Bigfoot being real and the highest motivation to keep it quiet.

 

I think that is part of government at different levels under various reasons.   The issue really is this:  Does Bigfoot's existence falls into that category/ level of concern.

 

If it doesn't (and I don't think it does) then the government to me would just fall into a normal expected set point of "Bigfoot is not proven to exist" 

 

 

 

[norseman]

1 hour ago, Backdoc said:

 

We again need to talk about two issues here:

 

1)  What does it mean or how do we define what the Government knowing Bigfoot exists means?

 

Until we have a body, people in government -and people who are not in government - are not going to step up and say Bigfoot exists.   It makes sense as the issue is largely governed by science.  Science is supposed to be determined by the scientific method being testable and requiting proof.  Finally, the politics of those in Academia are likely to promote those who share their consensus and look down upon those who go against that consensus.   This is why one of the skeptic scientists on Discovery Channel said of Dr. Jeff Meldrum, "He is brave" to study this issue.  It would seem to me in today's world the default position is, "Bigfoot is unproven to exist"

 

 

2)  Who is the government?

 

Those who talk of the government seem to really be saying a government is some groupthink of people with some unified purpose to keep bigfoot quiet.  That is, they have some proof of Bigfoot being real and the highest motivation to keep it quiet.

 

I think that is part of government at different levels under various reasons.   The issue really is this:  Does Bigfoot's existence falls into that category/ level of concern.

 

If it doesn't (and I don't think it does) then the government to me would just fall into a normal expected set point of "Bigfoot is not proven to exist" 

 

 

 

This has all been discussed before.

 

1) Government and science work hand in hand. I have already stated that the Smithsonian is above the law. We may already have a skeleton in our possession and the Smithsonian is under no obligation to produce it. They are exempt from the law that requires academia to give back tribal burial remains. You quoted guy’s point he was making that if they are some form of human then there may be reasons to not be transparent with the American people. It’s very telling that they make the Smithsonian exempt from federal law. At least we know where the bodies are kept.

 

2) Again you’re running under the false assumption that the government has no dog in the fight. The government is not transparent with all sorts of issues. From MK Ultra to UFOs to nuclear tests, etc….. Just pick a subject. We can all speculate as to why they may not be transparent with Bigfoot. But the bottom line is that with their surveillance capabilities within the last 50 years alone tells me they know what’s out there and yet it’s crickets.

 

And when I talk about the government, I am not talking about Ranger Bob at the Park entrance. I am talking about the people at the top who set policy. The people who manage to get the Smithsonian exempt from Federal law. The real power brokers that can end someone’s career with a phone call.

 

Who tells the FAA to tell Delta airlines to fire pilots trying to report close encounters with UFOs? And why? Why would you attempt to cover up a safety risk? Good question! Would a 800 lbs bipedal primate pose a safety risk in our nations hinterlands? Probably? And yet with all of the evidence produced? The U.S. Forest Service makes fun of the idea of Bigfoot! Why? Same. Same.