What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?

[Catmandoo]

2 hours ago, Wolfjewel said:

I have never heard of parts of the Amazon where there are reports of Bigfoot-like creatures or unidentified anomalous sightings. Give us a few hints about that. 

Also, in Southeast Asia, a smaller form is referred to as a "Rock Ape" which is not to be confused with forum member Rockape. Anyone have info on Rockape? He has not been on this forum in over 2 years.

[Trogluddite]

^^^

I just bumped up a historical newspaper article on the Rock Ape from a later publishing date to a few minutes from now, so those not familiar with it can see about it.  Unfortunately, I don't have any info on Rockape.

[1980squatch]

He was having some very serious health issues, at this point I'm assuming the worst unfortunately.

[georgerm]

12 hours ago, Catmandoo said:

Also, in Southeast Asia, a smaller form is referred to as a "Rock Ape" which is not to be confused with forum member Rockape. Anyone have info on Rockape? He has not been on this forum in over 2 years.

"Sightings of rock apes by Viet Cong and NVA troops were also common enough that an NVA general, General Hoang Minh Tha, organized an expedition in 1974 to try to capture or at least kill one of these legendary creatures. The expedition was unsuccessful, though, and no hard evidence for the existence of the rock apes was found."

 

"Another expedition organized by Professor Vo Quy of the Vietnam National University was similarly unsuccessful. However, strange human-like (but not human) footprints were found in the jungle in 1970 by Professor Tran Hong Viet of Hanoi’s Pedagogic University. He made casts of the footprints, but found no further evidence of the rock apes’ existence,"   Rock Apes: How Vietnam's 'Rock Apes' Confounded American GIs.

 

In the posted article, the author said rock apes get up to 6' tall and they throw rocks at people like bigfoot does. At least some prominent individuals in Vietnam such as General Tha and two professors Hong Vet and Vo Quy  have launched searches for Rock Apes. We don't have generals or many professors looking to document bigfoot due to the stigma generally held by Americans. The Forest Service has hired quite a few PHD biologist and we don't hear from them in regards to bigfoot. The Forest Service call bigfoot a mythical primate so their biologist are sitting on evidence because the higher ups refuse to recognize bigfoots. Why are we so different from Vietnam? Is the Forest Service threatening their biologist to stay quiet on bigfoot?  Why would they quelch bigfoot searches and hide knowledge from the public?

 

 

[MIB]

 

1 hour ago, georgerm said:

The Forest Service call bigfoot a mythical primate so their biologist are sitting on evidence because the higher ups refuse to recognize bigfoots.

 

Where is your proof of this accusation?

 

[Huntster]

 

[Pembo]

As i’ve said on a parallel thread, unless the government or forest service have a body, they won’t acknowledge anything, and why would they?

I wouldn’t expect them to go beyond science and no doubt it suits them not to. 

[georgerm]

19 hours ago, MIB said:

 

 

Where is your proof of this accusation?

 

 

 

Paul Freeman, a Forest Service employee reported that he saw a bigfoot in the Umatilla National Forest, and he took a video of it. He also took many plaster casts. Bing Videos 

 

Jan 19, 2018 · Nearly three decades later, a U.S. Forest Service employee, Paul Freeman, recorded what he claims to be Bigfoot walking through the Umatilla Forest in Northeastern Oregon, …forest service biologist sees bigfoot - Search    It's my logical opinion that there have been many more sightings by forest service employees but they are forced to keep quiet due to threats of job loss.

 

The U.S. Forest Service has approximately 27,062 permanent, full-time employees as of September 2018, which includes biologists among other professionals. However, specific counts for the number of biologists within the Forest Service are not provided in the available

 

Let's estimate how many forest service employees are working full time and who drive around the forest every day and all day as part of their job. There might be 10,000 employees driving the back roads of the forest. How many of them have reported seeing a bigfoot. The answer is one. Why only one? My assumption is there are probably many more sightings, but these bigfoot reports are not reported to the public since logging could be shut down because bigfoot would probably need its habitat protected. Bigfoot roams all parts of the national forest, and the forest service fears it might be classified as an endangered species. This is an unwarranted fear because in my opinion bigfoot survives perfectly fine with sustained yield clear cut logging. Can you answer why this is true?  

[georgerm]

15 minutes ago, Pembo said:

As i’ve said on a parallel thread, unless the government or forest service have a body, they won’t acknowledge anything, and why would they?

I wouldn’t expect them to go beyond science and no doubt it suits them not to. 

You make a good point. If the forest service employees are encouraged or ordered to report their sightings then those who oversee the forest service could begin to protect bigfoot from harm and keep logging at its present rate.

[norseman]

On 8/29/2025 at 3:13 PM, Pembo said:

As i’ve said on a parallel thread, unless the government or forest service have a body, they won’t acknowledge anything, and why would they?

I wouldn’t expect them to go beyond science and no doubt it suits them not to. 

The Smithsonian is exempt from NAGPRA. Lots of stuff has been “lost” from being sent to the Smithsonian. 
 

 

[georgerm]

On 8/29/2025 at 3:13 PM, Pembo said:

As i’ve said on a parallel thread, unless the government or forest service have a body, they won’t acknowledge anything, and why would they?

I wouldn’t expect them to go beyond science and no doubt it suits them not to. 

I hear ya Pembo but I smell a skunk. Does the Forest Service really want bigfoot discovered? They fear Bigfoot will be labeled as an endangered species which would shut down logging.

 

I used to be a Forest Service landscape architect, and they could easily prove their logging practices would not harm bigfoots that live in every corner of their forest land. Can you explain why this would be the case? bet ya can't?   Would bigfoot be labeled as an endangered species? Absolutely not.  Can some bright person explain why?  The forest service should be working on the justification for not labeling bigfoot as an endangered species and logging can continue providing the sustained yield method is followed.  

 

 

 

The first story I would like to discuss is the incident that allegedly occurred in the vicinity of Battle Mountain, Nevada in August of 1999 and might be deemed a "modern classic". On, or about, August 6 several wildfires sprang up and engulfed the wilderness around Battle Mountain. Several state and federal agencies were present to help in battling these fires. These agencies included, but were not necessarily limited to, the U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife, the Department of the Interior, the Bureau of Land Management, and, of course, numerous fire fighting units from Nevada and its surrounding states. According to a witness who claimed to have been on the ground during the attempts to contain the fire, a sasquatch was injured during the blaze and was captured by fire fighters. The witness submitted a report to the BFRO on August 7, 1999. His account was not deemed credible by BFRO curators and was never published. Thom Powell, author of The Locals, however, felt there might be something to this report and pressed for more details. You can read his entire account of the incident here but I will try to hit the high points below.   Texas Cryptid Hunter: Sasquatch Classics: The Bigfoot of Battle Mountain  

 

 

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[Huntster]

2 hours ago, georgerm said:

........Would bigfoot be labeled as an endangered species? Absolutely not.  Can some bright person explain why?.........

Well, I certainly can't explain why sasquatches can't be designated as endangered, especially since there is no data or information about them whatsoever.........at least that we know of. But I would love to hear or read somebody explain it.