What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?

[norseman]

8 minutes ago, Silverback Sax said:

We're mostly on the same page.  Though I have a hard time describing them as endangered considering their weakest totally out classes our strongest.  Maybe by human derived statistics, but let's be honest, they seem to do as they please ... where they please, by rules we can't quite comprehend. 

Endangered has nothing to do with physical attributes. 
 

What are their total numbers? Offspring survivability? Range shrinking or growing? Individuals healthy? Aging? 

[Pembo]

12 hours ago, norseman said:

Endangered has nothing to do with physical attributes. 
 

What are their total numbers? Offspring survivability? Range shrinking or growing? Individuals healthy? Aging? 

Agreed. “Endangered” as far as I am aware is based on current, provable, population of any animal. Seeing as no-one has yet managed to ‘prove’ the existence of a single Sasquatch, convincing anyone of a sufficient population that they wouldn’t be considered “endangered” seems an impossibility. 

[norseman]

 

[georgerm]

On 9/10/2025 at 8:28 AM, norseman said:

 

 

The video that Norseman attached to this thread is a good one to watch all the way to the end. Three guys were assigned a task that required them to camp out and to collect data about the forest for a month or two. It's quite interesting and you will hear about one of the Foresters leaving camp and going into the deep woods. While in the Deep Woods a large animal crashes through the brush and makes a ruckus he gets a glimpse of the thick fur and the ferociousness of this animal. Watch the video to the end because it's fascinating.

 

About 150th of all public lands are clear-cut once a year. Two agencies, the Forest Service (FS) and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), conduct timber sales as an authorized use. Together, the FS and the BLM manage 76% of federal forest area. FS manages 144.9 million acres, while BLM manages 37.6 million acres. The lands they manage are covered with forest that they will harvest so we have a wood supply for home builders and others. The land that our government agencies manage amounts is more than 180 million acres.

 

Throughout the forest where there are endangered species animals, potential endangered species, and Bigfoot that that has no endangered species identification. The forest service wildlife biologist will make sure that logging does not further reduce the endangered species animals. As long as the government protects deer and other animal populations by maintaining a constant amount of timber production that is designed so trees are not cut down where endangered species are living.  in other words, about on 1/50th of the forest will be cut each year which allows cut areas to grow back over another 50 year period. Bigfoot will always have plenty of timber to nest in and food to eat providing the sustained yield logging method is kept up yearly. When the government practices sustained yield logging that may take 50 years to make a complete cycle, and the first cycle begins with clear cutting a 36 million acres of forest each year. the first year of cutting Forest will amount to 36 million acres that will be scattered all across the United States throughout the different National Forest. Each plot will be laid out by a Forester on a rotating basis tell all 180 million acres has been cut and replanted over a 50 year about how long it takes a new seedling to grow to maturity.

[Backdoc]

 

On 9/9/2025 at 10:55 AM, Pembo said:

Agreed. “Endangered” as far as I am aware is based on current, provable, population of any animal. Seeing as no-one has yet managed to ‘prove’ the existence of a single Sasquatch, convincing anyone of a sufficient population that they wouldn’t be considered “endangered” seems an impossibility. 

 

 

"The beginning of Wisdom is the definition of terms" -- Socrates.

 

We use terms like Endangered or Extinct. These terms have a general near universal meaning to the public.   

 

No matter what the legal or established definition of an endangered or extinct our government would -IF NEEDED - redefine any term or restrict as they saw fit if the need to do so was great enough.      

 

I don't think Bigfoot rises to that level of concern as I don't think Bigfoot is an established animal to science and our government as a whole.  

 

Once we have one on a slab, who knows what they might try to do and why.   

[Huntster]

9 minutes ago, Backdoc said:

..........We use terms like Endangered or Extinct. These terms have a general near universal meaning to the public...........

 

While I agree that there is a near universal meaning to the public of the word "extinct", I strongly disagree that there is much agreement at all with the word "endangered".,

 

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.........No matter what the legal or established definition of an endangered or extinct our government would -IF NEEDED - redefine any term or restrict as they saw fit if the need to do so was great enough..........

 

Agreed, and I believe that has already occurred with the word "endangered".

 

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.........Once we have one on a slab, who knows what they might try to do and why..........

 

Agreed, and I opine that even getting one on the slab has been "discouraged" by "them".

 

[Backdoc]

11 hours ago, Huntster said:

 

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Agreed, and I opine that even getting one on the slab has been "discouraged" by "them".

 

 

Going by the Government-Knows-and-suppresses-Bigfoot [GKSB] model:

 

If there was some Bigfoot on a slab in such a public way, where suppression was no longer possible, what happens next?

  

What would a post-bombshell proof of Bigfoot world look like?   What government actions would go into effect?   What actions would a GKSB government do?  
 

[Huntster]

1 minute ago, Backdoc said:

........If there was some Bigfoot on a slab in such a public way, where suppression was no longer possible, what happens next?..........

  

 

Bedlam.

 

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..........What would a post-bombshell proof of Bigfoot world look like?..........

 

Just to start, the environmental industry (and every lawyer associated with them) begin suits to limit homo sapien activities of all kinds in Bigfoot range in order to honor the "Indigenous and tribal peoples’ rights over their ancestral lands and natural resources: Norms and jurisprudence of the inter‐American human rights system. OEA/Ser.L/V/II, December 30, 2009"

 

http://www.oas.org/en/iachr/indigenous/docs/pdf/report-indigenous-peoples-voluntary-isolation.pdf

 

The circus would grow from there..............

 

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........ What government actions would go into effect?..............

 

Unknown. It would take decades for government to deal with it legislatively and judicially. In the meantime, temporary measures would be initiated to keep sasquatches safe from people until the courts finally rule on measures.

 

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.........  What actions would a GKSB government do?..........

 

Again, it would take years to really get a good idea of the extent of social, commercial, environmental, and other damage that would occur.

 

A good example would be how people react to a gold strike. As an Alaskan, I have a really good grasp of it, both currently (gold at $3500+ per ounce as I type) and historical, and how it affected aboriginal peoples, but an even better example would be the gold rush in the Black Hills of South Dakota on sacred Lakota land protected by the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868, which resulted in a mass violation of the treaty, sparking mass migration of miners into the region. This led to increased conflict between the US and Lakota, known as the Great Sioux War of 1876, which was pretty much the final nail in the coffin of some 400 years of Indian Wars in North America.

 

 

 

[norseman]

23 minutes ago, Backdoc said:

 

Going by the Government-Knows-and-suppresses-Bigfoot [GKSB] model:

 

If there was some Bigfoot on a slab in such a public way, where suppression was no longer possible, what happens next?

  

What would a post-bombshell proof of Bigfoot world look like?   What government actions would go into effect?   What actions would a GKSB government do?  
 

What happened at Roswell? We went from “USAF captures a flying saucer” to “Roswell crash just a weather balloon” in 24 hrs.

 

The Bigfoot body would disappear and in its place would be some mangy bear with no ears on the slab.

 

But let’s say it gets out and stays out to the public?

 

The government is gonna look really really silly first and foremost. And then every 411 missing family is gonna start asking questions. Who is responsible? What is truly out there? Why didn’t you warn us? 
 

The next step will be the uncovering of the cover up. And the government will quickly go from looking silly to looking like lying backstabbing bureaucrats. And that’s probably when the lawsuits start flying in…

 

When the dust settles it would be awesome for the government to set aside some resources for the promotion of the species. Although I am resolute in my pro kill stance? I have no ill will towards the species as a whole and once recognized they should be protected. They should not be allowed to go extinct.

 

Lastly it would be one of the greatest discoveries of mankind. Right up there with putting a man on the moon. We are not alone. We have a cousin that still walks the earth living in the same primitive way our ancestors did. Wow!

[Backdoc]

Interesting takes on What the Government might do question I was proposing.

 

You guys might be right on target.

 

I can dream up some really positive scenarios and some really negative ones.

 

The only prediction I will make for sure is this:  The government would not stop (and the public would demand) a live Bigfoot in a cage.

 

 

If this happened, I would be fascinated for 24hrs and then sad the rest of my life.

 

 

[Backdoc]

10 hours ago, norseman said:

 

 

Lastly it would be one of the greatest discoveries of mankind. Right up there with putting a man on the moon. We are not alone. We have a cousin that still walks the earth living in the same primitive way our ancestors did. Wow!

 

 

THAT is right and THAT is something I don't know if we really are ready for.   We think we are.  Many of us on the BFF think we are.   But are we really?   

 

[Huntster]

3 hours ago, Backdoc said:

........The government would not stop (and the public would demand) a live Bigfoot in a cage..........

 

Agreed, along with numerous other negative interactions.

 

But, along the positive side, there are the Dian Fosseys and Jane Goodalls out there who would habituate with the sasquatches in order to learn about them in the right way. Indeed, that might have already occurred................or is occurring now. I note the approach taken by the Olympic Project, which I'm very happy with. Moreover, it is supposedly on private lands, which allows research without government interference. There are other researchers out there conducting similar research on public lands, and with government behaving from a position of ignorance, as long as no harvest occurs, no foul. And who cares if Joe Blow in downtown Dallas doesn't know about it?

[Huntster]

3 hours ago, Backdoc said:

THAT is right and THAT is something I don't know if we really are ready for.   We think we are.  Many of us on the BFF think we are.   But are we really?   

 

I've already come to believe it, and I'm rather happy about it. I just hope I don't run afoul of one while in the outdoors and have to shoot it. But after a long life of outdoors activities in this region, and having found almost zero convincing evidence here, that isn't much of a threat. I've had LOTS of close interactions with black and brown bears and wolves, and have seen plenty of sign of all three, but almost no sasquatch sign. Just one instance of strange knocking in a location I later learned has a reputation with the local natives.