LocalGayCryptid Posted July 1 Posted July 1 Sasquatch Ontario, ran by Mike Paterson, released a YouTube video two years ago titled 'The Face of Nef', which featured a photo he took of an alleged sasquatch. Here's the photo in question: Even though I believe this is an obvious hoax due to the static facial expressions and the features of the subjects having that cheap material quality to them that your average modern-day Halloween mask has, I still wasn't satisfied. I've actually been looking around for a while now and I'm almost positive I found the masks used in this photo. I managed to find this listing on Facebook Marketplace of a Halloween mask that looks exactly like the face of the subjects in the 'Face of Nef' photo. Here's the mask I found: Here's a comparison of the two: Additionally, this mask that I found appears that it was listed near Creemore, Ontario, the same province where Mike Paterson lives. I know the common consensus is that this photo was hoaxed, but I hope this helps to confirm it anyways. 2 1
Trogluddite Posted July 1 Posted July 1 "I do believe there's a significant possibility of there being a hoaxer in these woods." Just my opinion and totally understanding that others could conclude otherwise (if you were drunk or high). And I do believe you have correctly identified the mask used. I'm guessing that boot black was applied to the mask to make the face more consistently dark. Listening to the video (so others don't have to), the purported pictures aren't even shown until around the seven minute mark and the "witness" is having a conversation with "Nef" (so recording audio) but only taking stills, not videotaping so that the super-true, really lifelike movement (of people rearranging the props) can be seen. Amazing he has 80,000 subscribers on YouTube. And very sad. 1
NorCalWitness Posted July 1 Posted July 1 read your post on reddit. that is the most toxic group of people in the world.
LocalGayCryptid Posted July 2 Author Posted July 2 3 hours ago, NorCalWitness said: that is the most toxic group of people in the world. Why do you say that? And do you disagree with my post at all? 1 1
guyzonthropus Posted July 13 Posted July 13 Might be kinda close but, personally, I don't think even the application of boot black would render such a mask to appear as those faces seen in the video.
LocalGayCryptid Posted July 14 Author Posted July 14 I originally found the mask used in Sasquatch Ontario's 'The Face of Nef' photo, but now it looks like the exact same mask and photo were reused in a separate encounter. Sasquatch Ontario, ran by Mike Paterson, released two YouTube videos consecutively in May of 2023 claiming to show photos of an alleged Sasquatch named 'Nef'. • Video #1: 'Sasquatch Selfie', published May 6, 2023, featured a photo 'Nef' took of himself. The video explains that Mike was sitting at a table with Dwayne and showing him some images, when he noticed that one of them was actually a partial face shot of 'Nef' (photo #1). He also specified that this picture was taken on April 1, 2023. • Video #2: 'The Face of Nef', published May 27, 2023, featured a photo Dwayne took of 'Nef'. The video explains that Dwayne stepped outside, heard laughter, and photographed two photos of 'Nef' blindly (photo #2). He specified that these pictures were taken on December 27, 2019 and were sat on for a while. The videos 'Sasquatch Selfie' and 'The Face of Nef' are described by Mike as two entirely separate incidents. However, upon comparing the images in these two videos, I believe: • Both photos use the same mask, and • They may actually be the exact same photo, just cropped or resized. The biggest things that I've noticed are: • The two light reflection dots in the eyes are in the exact same spots. • The nose shape and angle are identical. • The eyes, brow ridge, and facial tilt match perfectly. • There’s no variation between the two images. Both photos share the exact same features, right down to the angle the face is at. There's virtually no difference. I've provided a comparison of the two photos (photo #3) as well as a gif comparison (photo #4) so you can see for yourselves. You may notice that the eye reflections are slightly larger in the 'Sasquatch Selfie' photo. I believe this is due to 'The Face of Nef' photo being cropped, as bright pixels like light reflections can appear bigger and blurrier when you resize a photo. Some might argue that similar lighting or facial features are to be expected, as it's alleged to be the same subject featured in both photos. However, that doesn’t explain the identical eye reflections, exact nose angle, and exact matching of the facial structure, which wouldn’t occur naturally across two separate incidents. Given the similarities, if 'The Face of Nef' photos are proven to be hoaxed, then by association, the 'Sasquatch Selfie' photo may be as well. If you have any questions, please let me know. 3
Trogluddite Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Winner, winner, chicken dinner. However, I suspect that the Forums management would not want us to say that "X researcher's post about whatever" can be proven to have been hoaxed." When I first got interested in Bigfoot circa 2010 or so, I relied primarily on a website by a person who is such anathema to the Bigfooting world that even mentioning his name here led to banishment. One of the things this person did (although not why he was persona non grata) was outline the different lawsuits threatened, filed, claimed, etc. by one bigfoot "researcher" who felt slighted by another bigfoot "researcher." That being said, your analysis appears to be spot on and the visual aids support your claims. Way back in the day (2013ish or so), I had visited this particular sight and/or read about it here and found videos claimed to having captured a bigfoot playing tic-tac-toe or playing with ghosts. Needless to say, your two reports simply add to the conclusion that claims by this individual merit little weight. 1
NorCalWitness Posted yesterday at 05:49 PM Posted yesterday at 05:49 PM what is going on with you? you posted the same thing 2 weeks ago. this isn't the ah ha you think it is.
BlackRockBigfoot Posted yesterday at 08:25 PM Posted yesterday at 08:25 PM On 7/1/2025 at 2:53 AM, LocalGayCryptid said: Sasquatch Ontario, ran by Mike Paterson, released a YouTube video two years ago titled 'The Face of Nef', which featured a photo he took of an alleged sasquatch. Here's the photo in question: Even though I believe this is an obvious hoax due to the static facial expressions and the features of the subjects having that cheap material quality to them that your average modern-day Halloween mask has, I still wasn't satisfied. I've actually been looking around for a while now and I'm almost positive I found the masks used in this photo. I managed to find this listing on Facebook Marketplace of a Halloween mask that looks exactly like the face of the subjects in the 'Face of Nef' photo. Here's the mask I found: Here's a comparison of the two: Additionally, this mask that I found appears that it was listed near Creemore, Ontario, the same province where Mike Paterson lives. I know the common consensus is that this photo was hoaxed, but I hope this helps to confirm it anyways. I saw your post on Reddit. Have you been able to find this mask anywhere else other than that Facebook marketplace listing? This looks like it could be an exact match
BlackRockBigfoot Posted yesterday at 08:26 PM Posted yesterday at 08:26 PM On 7/14/2025 at 4:30 PM, LocalGayCryptid said: I originally found the mask used in Sasquatch Ontario's 'The Face of Nef' photo, but now it looks like the exact same mask and photo were reused in a separate encounter. Sasquatch Ontario, ran by Mike Paterson, released two YouTube videos consecutively in May of 2023 claiming to show photos of an alleged Sasquatch named 'Nef'. • Video #1: 'Sasquatch Selfie', published May 6, 2023, featured a photo 'Nef' took of himself. The video explains that Mike was sitting at a table with Dwayne and showing him some images, when he noticed that one of them was actually a partial face shot of 'Nef' (photo #1). He also specified that this picture was taken on April 1, 2023. • Video #2: 'The Face of Nef', published May 27, 2023, featured a photo Dwayne took of 'Nef'. The video explains that Dwayne stepped outside, heard laughter, and photographed two photos of 'Nef' blindly (photo #2). He specified that these pictures were taken on December 27, 2019 and were sat on for a while. The videos 'Sasquatch Selfie' and 'The Face of Nef' are described by Mike as two entirely separate incidents. However, upon comparing the images in these two videos, I believe: • Both photos use the same mask, and • They may actually be the exact same photo, just cropped or resized. The biggest things that I've noticed are: • The two light reflection dots in the eyes are in the exact same spots. • The nose shape and angle are identical. • The eyes, brow ridge, and facial tilt match perfectly. • There’s no variation between the two images. Both photos share the exact same features, right down to the angle the face is at. There's virtually no difference. I've provided a comparison of the two photos (photo #3) as well as a gif comparison (photo #4) so you can see for yourselves. You may notice that the eye reflections are slightly larger in the 'Sasquatch Selfie' photo. I believe this is due to 'The Face of Nef' photo being cropped, as bright pixels like light reflections can appear bigger and blurrier when you resize a photo. Some might argue that similar lighting or facial features are to be expected, as it's alleged to be the same subject featured in both photos. However, that doesn’t explain the identical eye reflections, exact nose angle, and exact matching of the facial structure, which wouldn’t occur naturally across two separate incidents. Given the similarities, if 'The Face of Nef' photos are proven to be hoaxed, then by association, the 'Sasquatch Selfie' photo may be as well. If you have any questions, please let me know. Good job with the comparison 1
Trogluddite Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago NorCal, while I agree that this could have gone with the earlier thread, this is a different topic. The first thread showed two (clearly static) photos from one video posted on a YouTube channel concerning a claimed encounter in May 2023. This newer thread compares the mask used to apparently fake a Bigfoot encounter that reportedly happened 3 weeks before the photos that were the topic of LGC's first thread. 1
LocalGayCryptid Posted 21 hours ago Author Posted 21 hours ago 6 hours ago, NorCalWitness said: what is going on with you? you posted the same thing 2 weeks ago. Hi there, I'm not sure what you mean? Both posts are about Sasquatch Ontario, yes, but my first post was about the fact that I believed I had found the mask used in 'The Face of Nef' photo. This post is about how both photos featured in 'The Face of Nef' and 'Sasquatch Selfie' use the same mask, and may be the same photo (just cropped). I explained this all in the post. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. 6 hours ago, NorCalWitness said: this isn't the ah ha you think it is. Can you clarify what issues you have with my posts, please? I thought it was a neat find and that I put forward my evidence well, if there's something you think I'm missing or misinterpreting, I'm open to hearing it. 1
LocalGayCryptid Posted 20 hours ago Author Posted 20 hours ago 3 hours ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: I saw your post on Reddit. Have you been able to find this mask anywhere else other than that Facebook marketplace listing? This looks like it could be an exact match I don't believe so, I'm still trying to track down where the person that posted the listing got the mask from originally. I've gotten close I think using Google Lens, but it's not 100% the same as the one pictured. I reached out to the person who listed it but they couldn't remember where they got it from, only that they had it for a while now. I do hope I can find out where they got it from, as I agree that it looks likely to be a match. Last I heard, the guy that runs the podcast, Sasquatch Odyssey, bought the mask and was waiting for it to arrive so he could see if it matches 'Nef'. I hope it goes well for him!
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