norseman Posted 20 hours ago Admin Posted 20 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Huntster said: That's a good argument, but there are many things that government doesn't publish. They often offer pretty good reasons for keeping secrets. Can you think of an honest reason for Sasquatch?
Huntster Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 58 minutes ago, norseman said: Can you think of an honest reason for Sasquatch? To let them live unmolested from the hundreds of millions of Homo sapiens on the continent.
norseman Posted 18 hours ago Admin Posted 18 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Huntster said: To let them live unmolested from the hundreds of millions of Homo sapiens on the continent. I think that ship has already sailed.
NorCalWitness Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 6 hours ago, Huntster said: Let me ask you this: If this report is true, has extraterrestrial life been "discovered"? We don't know if the life that has been discovered (orbs, tic tacs, discs, etc.) are extraterrestrial or interdimensional. But either way, there is plenty of proof of biological entities that fall outside of what was previously accepted by the mainstream.
NorCalWitness Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 6 hours ago, Huntster said: Maybe. If they're really lucky, or really smart, or both, they might be able to get the truth out before the powers opposed to discovery can act. Seems like the task of finding this creature is hard enough, and then you have to couple the effort with beating the secret keeping agents of the gov't? The combination of the 2 makes it impossible, in my opinion.
Huntster Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 9 hours ago, norseman said: I think that ship has already sailed. So chase them down in the nooks and crannies of the remaining wilderness?
Huntster Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 8 hours ago, NorCalWitness said: We don't know if the life that has been discovered (orbs, tic tacs, discs, etc.) are extraterrestrial or interdimensional. But either way, there is plenty of proof of biological entities that fall outside of what was previously accepted by the mainstream. It's one thing for a guy like Lasar to openly say that he was working on extraterrestrial vehicles for the U.S. government. But when an object like the Buga Sphere can actually be held in human hands and nobody can figure out what it's made of, and it's sitting there doing things that nobody can explain, and there are still "explanations" that somehow deny the obvious......................well, that's why even a Bigfoot body on a slab can still not result in "discovery". From AI: Quote The "Buga Sphere" is a viral phenomenon and alleged artifact that surfaced in the media around March 2025, purportedly a mysterious metallic orb that crashed in Buga, Colombia, after exhibiting unusual aerial behavior. Claims circulate about its extraterrestrial origin, internal complex structures, unique symbols, and responses to Sanskrit mantras. However, these claims are not definitively supported by mainstream scientific sources, and a recent TikTok videomentions an AI's deciphering of an Olmec-like message within it, though this is also part of the viral claims. The information about the Buga Sphere is primarily found on social media and in podcasts, with some sources suggesting it may be a hoax or an example of misinformation. What is being claimed about the Buga Sphere? Discovery A metallic sphere was reportedly seen flying erratically in the sky over Buga, Colombia, before crashing. Mysterious Features: The sphere is described as seamless, without visible welds, and covered in strange symbols. Internal Structure: Internal components, including fiber optic wiring, a chip-like nucleus, and nine microspheres, were reportedly found during analysis. Unique Properties: Some experiments suggested it responded to Sanskrit mantras, while a quantum-enhanced AI linked its symbols to Olmec glyphs, suggesting it is a form of "spherical grammar". Possible Origins: Claims include it being an extraterrestrial device, a product of a lost advanced civilization, or even a sophisticated prank. Why is it controversial? Lack of mainstream verification: There are no reports from government agencies or official scientific bodies confirming its existence or properties. Suspicions of hoax: Skeptics point to the potential for it to be a sophisticated hoax, similar to other viral stories about purported alien artifacts. Information on social media: The primary source of information is social media platforms, which may lack the rigorous fact-checking of established news outlets and scientific journals. "Lack of mainstream verification". Sound familiar? This can go on forever. And it will............ Edited 9 hours ago by Huntster
georgerm Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago (edited) Posted 12 hours ago 13 hours ago, norseman said: "Because the government works for me supposedly. I pay my taxes. I pay my licenses and my discovery pass and my park entrance fees. And the government isn’t going to warn me that a 800 lbs primate is walking around out there? Or I see one and report to a ranger or a pine cone cop and I get laughed at? Or they ask me if I have had my head checked?" "Absolutely none of this is OK" . While the Jones family goes hiking in the national forest, and one family member gets attacked by a Black Bear and dies. Will the family win a $100k lawsuit since the federal government was negligent and didn't have a big sign or pamphlets at the trail head warning of all the deadly animals in the forest? What about if the Smith family is attacked by a Sasquatch while hiking in the national forest, and one of their children dies from this attack? Will the federal government be liable for this death since they left bigfoot off of warning signs and pamphlets because Bigfoot is a myth and only exist in a mythological world? Edited 6 hours ago by georgerm more detail
norseman Posted 4 hours ago Admin Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, Huntster said: So chase them down in the nooks and crannies of the remaining wilderness? Well…yes! https://fwp.mt.gov/binaries/content/assets/fwp/montana-outdoors/our-point-of-view/2016/ja16dm.pdf If Grizzly bear recovery in the lower 48 is a success story? Then being a scientifically recognizable species on the endangered species list is very beneficial to the species in question. I don't think the Government is keeping them a secret for their own good. I think they are keeping them a secret for their own destruction. They are slowly being paved over. Them and the salmon. https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/west-coast/endangered-species-conservation/saving-pacific-salmon-and-steelhead#how-are-they-doing
Huntster Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, georgerm said: Posted 12 hours ago While the Jones family goes hiking in the national forest, and one family member gets attacked by a Black Bear and dies. Will the family win a $100k lawsuit since the federal government was negligent and didn't have a big sign or pamphlets at the trail head warning of all the deadly animals in the forest? What about if the Smith family is attacked by a Sasquatch while hiking in the national forest, and one of their children dies from this attack? Will the federal government be liable for this death since they left bigfoot off of warning signs and pamphlets because Bigfoot is a myth and only exist in a mythological world? https://law.justia.com/cases/alaska/supreme-court/1979/3919-1.html Quote ......... the State may be liable for personal injuries resulting from the attack......... Mythical animals don't exist, and there is no liability if one harms or kills you.
Huntster Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, norseman said: ........I don't think the Government is keeping them a secret for their own good. I think they are keeping them a secret for their own destruction......... It's both. Government is letting them go extinct as quietly and peacefully as possible.
norseman Posted 3 hours ago Admin Posted 3 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Huntster said: It's both. Government is letting them go extinct as quietly and peacefully as possible. But why? Why save Grizzly bears but not Sasquatch?
NorCalWitness Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 45 minutes ago, norseman said: But why? Why save Grizzly bears but not Sasquatch? Why not reintroduce grizzly bears into California? I mean, there is a grizzly on the state flag. They had no problem releasing wolves back into the state. Sasquatch and the implications of its existence are as profoundly disruptive to the world as alien disclosure. That is why these two secrecy campaigns mirror one another so closely. Sasquatch isn't covered up because of logging. It has more to do with our understanding of the physical world, systems of control and the multi-dimensional reality we live in (which has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt).
Huntster Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 59 minutes ago, norseman said: But why? Why save Grizzly bears but not Sasquatch? Because we (environmentalists) know all about grizzlies and demand their salvation (even though that is stupidity in some of their original range, like California). Imagine the uproar over another Homo species on the cusp of extinction. 9 minutes ago, NorCalWitness said: Why not reintroduce grizzly bears into California?....... People and grizzlies are like oil and water. Today's news. This isn't odd. People up here get chewed up every year. Add another 38 million human bodies, and the bears go nuts. Edited 2 hours ago by Huntster
NorCalWitness Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 hours ago, Huntster said: It's one thing for a guy like Lasar to openly say that he was working on extraterrestrial vehicles for the U.S. government. But when an object like the Buga Sphere can actually be held in human hands and nobody can figure out what it's made of, and it's sitting there doing things that nobody can explain, and there are still "explanations" that somehow deny the obvious......................well, that's why even a Bigfoot body on a slab can still not result in "discovery". From AI: "Lack of mainstream verification". Sound familiar? This can go on forever. And it will............ I agree with you that there is a massive coverup. My point of contention is whether these crafts are extraterrestrial or extradimensional. Extraterrestrial vs extradimensional — short, useful definitions Extraterrestrial = something that exists elsewhere in our universe’s space–time (another planet, star system, galaxy). It’s still subject to the same physical laws (speed of light, conservation of energy, etc.). Extradimensional = something that exists in a different dimension or “brane” (extra spatial dimensions, a different manifold, or some other sector not directly embedded in our 4D spacetime). This is a speculative idea in some theories (string theory branes, higher-dimensions, etc.). Extradimensional entities or pathways are often invoked in fiction because they could — in principle — allow shortcuts that bypass the normal space-time distance constraints. But they are highly speculative and there’s no empirical evidence for accessible extradimensional shortcuts. Key conceptual difference: extraterrestrial = far away but in the same spacetime; extradimensional = potentially outside/orthogonal to our spacetime Bottom line (practical summary) Intergalactic distances are enormous — millions of light years. Even at 0.99c the trip to Andromeda is ~2.6 million years. Energy scales are stupendous — accelerating modest masses to relativistic speeds requires energy comparable to planetary or stellar outputs. Collisions with the interstellar medium at relativistic speeds produce destructive energies per square meter (megaton scale impacts). Shielding against that is hugely mass-expensive. Propulsion and fuel constraints: chemical rockets are hopeless; even nuclear or antimatter options face energy, engineering, and mass-storage problems many orders beyond current capability. Extradimensional/via-new-physics shortcuts remain the only fictional / speculative ways to avoid these constraints — but they rest on physics we don’t have evidence for and typically require exotic, currently unrealizable energy conditions. I used to be in the extraterrestrial camp. I now lean more towards an extradimensional explanation for the UAP/UFO and biological entities we know to exist. 1
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