Huntster Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 38 minutes ago, NorCalWitness said: .........I have seen the numerous anti-Standing posts, but have yet to see anything that proves him to be a fraud. If there is some sacred knowledge that the more informed have, I would be more than happy to review it. I have no knowledge of any "proof" that Standing is a fraud. My exposure to the allegations of his fraudulence goes back way more than 8 years. I discounted all things Standing at least 20 years ago. That is based on "conjecture": an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.........which is what the entire sasquatch phenomenon is. Conjecture. This is a world of conjecture. We are awash in it. Completely immersed. Nothing is proven. Opinion is pretty much all we have to go on, and opinions are not like..............well, you know. They're more like toes and fingers collectively. Everybody has lots and lots of them..............
NorCalWitness Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Huntster said: I have no knowledge of any "proof" that Standing is a fraud. My exposure to the allegations of his fraudulence goes back way more than 8 years. I discounted all things Standing at least 20 years ago. That is based on "conjecture": an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.........which is what the entire sasquatch phenomenon is. Conjecture. This is a world of conjecture. We are awash in it. Completely immersed. Nothing is proven. Opinion is pretty much all we have to go on, and opinions are not like..............well, you know. They're more like toes and fingers collectively. Everybody has lots and lots of them.............. Good post. 1
socialBigfoot Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Meldrum wrote about a personal encounter in his Legend Meets Science book. In 1997 he had a non-visual encounter in Northern California involving something coming into his camp at night and leaving large footprints. I didn't get the impression that this experience converted him into a knower but it probably nudged him in that direction. Standing may have tipped him over the edge. I'm ambivalent on Standing. I remember watching his Discovering Bigfoot documentary and thinking he seemed to push Meldrum into supporting Standing's claim of being the Jane Goodall of Bigfoot. Standing would keep encouraging Meldrum to do things to deepen his commitment, such as put an apple in a tree, do a Bigfoot call, confirm a foot impression is a Bigfoot print, or admit that he saw that shadow and it was a Bigfoot. It all seemed suspicious to me. A couple months ago I wrote about the anatomy of a hoax, and honestly I think Standing's behavior shows a similar pattern to Hansen's regarding the Minnesota Iceman, and unfortunately I think he may have been using Meldrum's desire to believe in Bigfoot as a pathway to convert Meldrum into a champion for Standing in the Bigfoot community. As @Huntster says, though, this is all conjecture. Here's my post for those interested. I'm not above a little self-promotion. https://thesocialbigfoot.substack.com/p/the-art-of-the-hoax 1
Huntster Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago ^^^^^ Excellent post. I'd like to expand on it............ Bobby Short passed away some years ago. She was an excellent data catcher and reporter. She wrote that Lyle "Laverty was associated with a personal Bigfoot sighting near Hyampom, California and a Bigfoot 'nest' found near Scorpion Creek in the Lonesome Ridge region........" http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/laverty.htm Like Meldrum's experiences, this is powerful for the individual involved. But, if true, this Leverty thing is huge in terms of him as a USFS timber cruiser supervisor and later Asst. Secretary of the Interior. Nowhere else do we read of this, although I believe Daniel Perez or another interviewer brings it up. Laverty kept it pretty quiet. Yet, when asked about Patterson and Gimlin, he expresses doubt about the film, and he clearly says that he cannot understand how a couple of Washington cowboys could show up and catch the footage of several lifetimes when so many spent so much time there and came up with so little. More conjecture, there. Like I wrote, lots of that conjecture stuff throughout...........
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