MIB Posted 8 hours ago Moderator Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, georgerm said: When so many people report the same paranormal event happening over and over again, it begins to make a fact. Absolutely false. It as likely makes it copycat lies and/or shared mistakes in observation and interpretation.
Frisco85132 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, georgerm said: Hello Frisco and welcome to this thread and the forum in general. Around 1980 before I had any definite information on Bigfoot and all I knew about it was what the Patterson Gimlin film showed. Then one day my wood cutting partner and I went way up into the mountains by a little town called Prospect Oregon. The ground was flat and had large Douglas fir trees that covered the ground with forest and in between the trees there were 8 foot high bushes In a scattered formation with open clear areas. After wood cutting all day we threw our sleeping bags out in the open area and went to sleep for the night. Now during the night about two in the morning I had a paranormal experience with Bigfoot. Now I could call it telepathy or extrasensory perception Because I was sleeping soundly after a long day's work and a strange event was about to happen at 2:00 in the morning. At this time I snapped awake for no reason that I can think of and looked about 30 yards ahead into the face of a Bigfoot that was staring at my partner and I from behind a large fallen log. I have no explanation as to why I snapped awake at this time except for this paranormal experience. Hello Backdoc, and thank you for your comment and interest in this thread. Now if you read my reply just before this one, I explained a paranormal event that happened to me many years ago when I saw a Bigfoot that was watching us while we slept out under the stars. Since then, I've had other paranormal experiences that I attribute to Bigfoot such as vanishing during an observation. Many other people have reported paranormal experiences while observing Bigfoot. However, these same people that are probably woodsmen and spend much of time in the forest don't report paranormal activities with deer, bear, cougars, chipmunks and normal earth-bound creatures. Now I'm not stating this as a fact that Bigfoot is paranormal, but it's a theory. When so many people report the same paranormal event happening over and over again, it begins to make a fact. This hunch makes me wonder why Bigfoot is different from your normal earthbound animals such as bears Cougars deer world and many other animals that do not have reported paranormal behaviors. Now, if my theory is true how would Bigfoot get from a foreign planet to here? Do you spend a lot of time in the forest? Have you ever seen a Bigfoot? I don't see anything particularly "paranormal" in your waking up suddenly. Humans are still hardwired for survival and with a strong fight or flight reflex. A smell, or a pheromone, or any number of things could have alerted your "soundly sleeping" and "tired after a long days work" body that there was something amiss and awakened you. It could have been a noise your "soundly sleeping" consciousness didn't register but that part of your brain that is still working might have and awakened you. In the absence of anything else, your brain is now searching for an explanation and the only thing it could come up with was "woo" to fill in the gaps. I place zero credibility in the "woo" factor, none whatsoever. Sorry if that bothers you, but it's not my responsibility to participate in what I as a 27 year police veteran and current attorney consider to be "whimsical faux evidence lacking any scientific basis". Conversely, it's not your responsibility to change your mind because of my opinion. When I had my face to face, there were two days of very out of place vocalizations, building slaps, and disturbances in the tree line near our cabin before a very real, very physical, very zoological bigfoot stepped out in front of me at a distance of 10 yards and we stared at one another for 5-15 seconds before it broke to its left and went crashing through the thicket and pines. No "portal" opened up other than the one it created by physically busting through the brush. Call me old fashioned, but I place zero credibility in ANY paranormal, extraterrestrial, spiritual, ghost, or extradimensional connection to the phenomenon. Again, it's not my place or yours to change one another's mind but I am intellectually honest and won't compromise my conviction based on evidence to entertain what I consider to be delusion. 2
georgerm Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, MIB said: Yes and yes. I've never seen any reason to believe they were paranormal. I've had them "disappear" but each time was sleight of hand .. misdirection of attention. It's like parlor magicians getting you to look where the trick is not so they can fool you. People too arrogant to realize they've been fooled or to accept that they can be fooled are the easiest to fool of all. I have experienced a few very weird things in the woods but there has been no particular reason to believe any of those have any direct connection to bigfoot. Some people try way too hard to turn everything into bigfoot. They're to be recognized, then dismissed .. not to be taken seriously. "I have experienced a few very weird things in the woods...," said MIB. Can you tell us of these weird things in the woods? I have a few more incidents to write on. How do you not take Bigfoot seriously when you go into the woods and know that they can take you out about anytime they want. They hold back for some reason or they are too rare to be a danger.
georgerm Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, MIB said: Absolutely false. It as likely makes it copycat lies and/or shared mistakes in observation and interpretation. The fact part depends how well the person describes the incidents and pays attention to little details that only real observers pick up on. You have to be a critical listener. At about two in the morning, I had a middle age Bigfoot staring at me while I slept, and it could have sent out a telepathic message for me to wake up. I woke up and stared into its eyes as it crouched behind a fallen log a 150 feet away from me. For some reason I was not scared and was interested in what the animal was thinking and doing. When I turned away from seeing the Bigfoot and reached over to wake my friend Bill up this Sasquatch slipped away without a sound. It could have sent me A false message of peace and was really hungry and debating on how it was gonna take one of us out.
georgerm Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Frisco85132 said: I don't see anything particularly "paranormal" in your waking up suddenly. TELEPATHIC COMMUNICATION IS CONSIDERED PARANORMAL Humans are still hardwired for survival and with a strong fight or flight reflex. A smell, or a pheromone, or any number of things could have alerted your "soundly sleeping" and "tired after a long days work" body that there was something amiss and awakened you. It could have been a noise your "soundly sleeping" consciousness didn't register but that part of your brain that is still working might have and awakened you. AGREED In the absence of anything else, your brain is now searching for an explanation and the only thing it could come up with was "woo" to fill in the gaps. I place zero credibility in the "woo" factor, none whatsoever. TELEPATHIC COMMUNICATION IS PARANORMAL Sorry if that bothers you, but it's not my responsibility to participate in what I as a 27 year police veteran Thank you very much for your service and current attornEy consider to be "whimsical faux evidence lacking any scientific basis". Well I've heard of many good police officers that have depended on a hunch which directed them to the truth. Conversely, it's not your responsibility to change your mind because of my opinion. I really appreciate your tough questioning because that's what I expect when I make a claim as I have. I'm not trying to gain notoriety. I'm just trying to explain how I felt, and I was surprised because I wasn't fearful. Maybe this was a hopeful illusion. When I had my face to face, there were two days of very out of place vocalizations, building slaps, and disturbances in the tree line near our cabin before a very real, very physical, very zoological bigfoot stepped out in front of me at a distance of 10 yards and we stared at one another for 5-15 seconds before it broke to its left and went crashing through the thicket and pines. No "portal" opened up other than the one it created by physically busting through the brush. Call me old fashioned, but I place zero credibility in ANY paranormal, Let's not get carried away 'cause I get your point and not all sightings have paranormal aspects to them such as yours extraterrestrial, spiritual, ghost, or extradimensional connection to the phenomenon. Let's not get too dramatical and over exaggerating 'cause it detracts from the discussion that we're having. Again, it's not my place or yours to change one another's mind but I am intellectually honest and won't compromise my conviction based on evidence to entertain what I consider to be delusion. Looking into the eyes of Bigfoot in the middle of the night Is not delusional but the most real reality that you can ever experience in your life so don't discount what I've seen. Edited 1 hour ago by georgerm 1
Frisco85132 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, georgerm said: As I said...I am not trying to convince YOU of anything as it seems you are trying really hard to convince ME, based upon your "feelings" that I should also "feel" the same "feelings" you "feel" about what you "felt" surrounding your alleged encounter. As I said, you do you boo....have fun in the woo, but don't try to ascribe anything such as "drama" and "over exaggeration" to my lack of conviction in your emotional argument. I don't play in that sandbox. I don't doubt you BELIEVE your encounter is as you describe.
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