NorCalWitness Posted yesterday at 04:42 PM Posted yesterday at 04:42 PM 20 hours ago, norseman said: Cannibalism proof is almost 1.5 million years old from Spain. https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/scientists-discover-what-could-be-the-oldest-evidence-of-cannibalism-among-ancient-human-relatives Technically with Sasquatch not being a Homo Sapien? It’s not cannibalism. But primates do eat other primates. 1) Incorrigible touched on Chimps eating human babies. But they also actively hunt monkeys. 2) There was a giant baboon (I posted a link in the campfire section) that was a predator of human ancestors. 3) The hobbit on the island of Flores was reported to steal human babies to eat. If Sasquatch is strictly a plant eater like a Gorilla? Then we are probably safe other than some territorial or defensive response. But if Sasquatch scavenges meat? Or actively hunts? All bets are off. It may be triggered by the circumstance like being alone, hurt, etc. So it may be rare? But not wise to discount. I think everyone knows how I feel about the 411 books. So I won’t start a fight here about it. But it’s my personal opinion that yes it does happen and it’s logical to think that it does. A 800 lbs boss of the woods isn’t going to ask for permission for much. And just like Timothy Treadwell? After 8 seasons of a death wish? Enter one old male Griz that wasn’t having a good fishing season. And that’s where it ended. Modern humans every time we get hungry we go open the fridge. If it’s empty we go to the store. We are very very far removed from the “eat or be eaten” paradigm that Mother Nature operates. And this also probably why most Bigfooters see Bigfoot as some Forest Shaman. Just as Timothy Treadwell thought that Bears were just big teddy bears. Well….that worked until it didn’t. As a woodsman since I was a child? The biggest piece of advice I can give anyone? Animals are individuals, just like us. They have likes and dislikes and dispositions, just like us. Yes you can generalize and say most of the time in this situation the creature will do X or Y. But you dang well be ready for the curve ball. Ask Timothy Treadwell. Ask rodeo fans why there is a bull in the bleachers. Ask Steve Irwin. Ask the tourists in Yellowstone. Be safe folks! https://text-message.blogs.archives.gov/2022/04/19/the-grisly-tale-of-the-colorado-cannibal-alfred-packer-as-seen-in-the-records-of-the-office-of-indian-affairs/ 1
MIB Posted yesterday at 04:42 PM Moderator Posted yesterday at 04:42 PM 16 minutes ago, Backdoc said: An old or injured Bigfoot would be limited on its ability to chase down the person, kill, and eat them. That notion seems to lack imagination. Chasing down dinner is only one option. Ambush is another .. and doesn't take speed or endurance. Yet another is .. if you're somewhat nocturnal .. to wait for dinner to go to sleep, then sneak up on it. You should, if you want to get at the crux of the thing, think about all of the options, not just the stereotypical and obvious. 2
Huntster Posted yesterday at 06:08 PM Posted yesterday at 06:08 PM 1 hour ago, Backdoc said: .........As I understood the Question, the issue was an old or injured Bigfoot. An old or injured Bigfoot would be limited on its ability to chase down the person, kill, and eat them......... Another thought might go along the lines of sasquatch family behavior. In three kidnapping accounts in which the kidnapped person escaped that I know of, the sasquatches were in a family or group assembly. Among early man and even more primitive great apes, this might indicate the group taking care of the older generation, weak, or injured among them.
norseman Posted 23 hours ago Admin Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, NorCalWitness said: https://text-message.blogs.archives.gov/2022/04/19/the-grisly-tale-of-the-colorado-cannibal-alfred-packer-as-seen-in-the-records-of-the-office-of-indian-affairs/ Yup. The Donner party and liver eating Johnson come to mind too!
Backdoc Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 22 hours ago, MIB said: That notion seems to lack imagination. Chasing down dinner is only one option. Ambush is another .. and doesn't take speed or endurance. Yet another is .. if you're somewhat nocturnal .. to wait for dinner to go to sleep, then sneak up on it. You should, if you want to get at the crux of the thing, think about all of the options, not just the stereotypical and obvious. Bigfoot's needs and abilities are always stretched into whatever shape is needed to fit the narrative. <--- This almost always makes the narrative wrong. -Say Bigfoot is sick, suddenly there are more fellow Bigfeet out there bringing him food. -Say we can't find a body, Bigfoot bury their dead -Don't have sightings in decades of looking, Bigfoot has the ability to teleport. When Questions about Bigfoot arise, we need to look at the most likely scenario. Sure, shows like Finding Bigfoot seems to know what Bigfoot's favorite baseball team is, or his favorite color. Not bad considering they have never found Bigfoot let alone studied the actual issue in Queston. Yes, we can imagine various scenarios for Bigfoot. But if bigfoot is old or injured is just more likely to die or get eaten by another predator. Nothing extreme needs to explain it. If the food supply dries up for Bigfoot in one area, like most animals (or people) it would move on to an area where it needs are available. Billy the Kidd (of whomever) robbed banks because, "That is where the money is" Simplicity rules. Simplicity is the marketplace of nature. Brody: Now this guy, he... he keeps swimmin' around in a place where the feeding is good until the food supply is gone, right? Hooper: It's called "territoriality". It's just a theory that I happen to... agree with. It is easy to imagine elaborate scenarios to explain all things Bigfoot. When Bigfoot is not able to meet its needs, it dies. It will live so long as it can. We don't have to imagine much beyond that 1
Huntster Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 31 minutes ago, Backdoc said: Bigfoot's needs and abilities are always stretched into whatever shape is needed to fit the narrative. <--- This almost always makes the narrative wrong. -Say Bigfoot is sick, suddenly there are more fellow Bigfeet out there bringing him food. -Say we can't find a body, Bigfoot bury their dead -Don't have sightings in decades of looking, Bigfoot has the ability to teleport. When Questions about Bigfoot arise, we need to look at the most likely scenario.......... How about consideration of possibilities that fit the current evidence, testimony, or lack thereof? I suggested the thought that, since three Bigfoot kidnapping stories indicated a family structure for them (which certainly fits primitive human sociology), maybe aged and injured sasquatches are cared for by their family members. That suggestion doesn't prove that sasquatches exist, that they're primitive humans, that they kidnap loggers and aboriginal hunters, etc., which are all "narratives". It's a thought. Nothing more. BTW..............there have been sightings on a regular basis. They just don't appear to fit your standards or "narratives"................ Maybe this sasquatch family "teleported" into these guys visual scape in 2019?: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=62354
Backdoc Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago ^^^ One thing about Bigfoot. He never kidnaps families who own a cell phone.
Huntster Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 22 minutes ago, Backdoc said: ^^^ One thing about Bigfoot. He never kidnaps families who own a cell phone. Another thing I've learned through repeated death-defying adventures: Electronic devices are pretty much useless. I've been shot, drowned, set afire, lost, broke down, etc. I'm not buying anymore PLBs, Mini Reach's, Onyx's, E-Trex's, etc. They're expensive to replace. I'll fight my way out. It has worked for me every time. The gizmos haver failed every time. No narrative, like the marketing BS. That's pure experience. Edited 1 hour ago by Huntster
Backdoc Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Huntster said: Another thing I've learned through repeated death-defying adventures: Electronic devices are pretty much useless. I've been shot, drowned, set afire, lost, broke down, etc. I'm not buying anymore PLBs, Mini Reach's, Onyx's, E-Trex's, etc. They're expensive to replace. I'll fight my way out. It has worked for me every time. The gizmos haver failed every time. No narrative, like the marketing BS. That's pure experience. Getting a signal out in the middle of nowhere is not the same as having a Cell phone have the ability to take a picture.
Huntster Posted 32 minutes ago Posted 32 minutes ago 20 minutes ago, Backdoc said: Getting a signal out in the middle of nowhere is not the same as having a Cell phone have the ability to take a picture. True, but getting a cell phone pic of a bigfoot kidnapper isn't as likely as an electronic signal in Antarctica since there hasn't been an alleged bigfoot kidnapping in a long, long time. There have certainly been very close encounters that might have begun as attempted kidnappings, but I'm pretty confident that such an allegation won't survive your legal, analytical scrutiny. Like this one? The potential victim didn't have a cell phone, and the encounter took place in the dark, anyway.........but he had a gun........: https://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=15821
Backdoc Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago 50 minutes ago, Huntster said: How about consideration of possibilities that fit the current evidence, testimony, or lack thereof? Daneil Perez said on a Podcast essentially There are no true Bigfoot experts- only reports. We get reports. Reports may be 100% accurate, lies or anything in between. Well-intentioned people can get it wrong and still be convinced they saw bigfoot. Also, people could have a home-run sighting and still not come forward due to some social pressure. We should take the same hardline about a Bigfoot reports. 50 minutes ago, Huntster said: I suggested the thought that, since three Bigfoot kidnapping stories indicated a family structure for them (which certainly fits primitive human sociology), maybe aged and injured sasquatches are cared for by their family members. That suggestion doesn't prove that sasquatches exist, that they're primitive humans, that they kidnap loggers and aboriginal hunters, etc., which are all "narratives". It's a thought. Nothing more. It could be these reports might be true. I would think more track sightings would more commonly report multiple tracks from multiple members in multiple sizes but all with the same character on the same type of surface. I met a guy I'll call Charlie here in Iowa who claimed several NFL players (from our mutual favorite team) go deer hunting on his family farm every year. It's very possible as I know a farmer who has rich finance guys from Chicago every year to hunt deer on his land paying top dollar. Charlie claimed these NFL players were coming down and he would bring them by my place to meet them. It never happened. He said, "They decided they didn't want to go hunting because it was going to rain" He did claim they came down the following week as they have done for several years sometimes bringing other players. When I asked him to see any pic on his cell phone, he didn't have one. When I asked him how these two active NFL players (who played on Sunday and practice all week) had time to go deer hinting during the active NFL season he couldn't explain it. As you can imagine, no matter how passionate his story he was comfortable lying to my face. Eyewitness can also have bad motivations as well as good or even be mentally ill. 50 minutes ago, Huntster said: BTW..............there have been sightings on a regular basis. They just don't appear to fit your standards or "narratives"................ I don't have a standard. Can we define out of most reports what a typical report looks like. My guess is a typical encounter would be a witness who comes across a sudden bigfoot sighting. Bigfoot notices the witness and then quickly moves on easily disappearing the surrounding terrain. There may or may not be odor and there may or may not be footprints based on the terrain. I have NOTHING to base this one with any certainty. 50 minutes ago, Huntster said: Maybe this sasquatch family "teleported" into these guys visual scape in 2019?: We have people on the BFF who attribute all kind of magic powers to Bigfoot some of this earth and some from outer space. 50 minutes ago, Huntster said: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=62354 The people in the above report (the one that came up when I clicked on it) said they saw what the saw at a distance and night. It could very well be. Like any story we would have to dig deeper. The report isn't that impressive- at least the one that came up. Q: Say the EXACT same story or report was made but the witness was (former poster) KItkaze. Why does the exact same report suddenly become suspect if made by Kitkaze? The facts are the same, but the likely motivation could be a skeptic set-up. to test how in depth the report would be investigated. The report could be just to create a "Gotcha" moment. All reports should demand full, strong scrutiny. We can't be hard of Bob Heironimus or Mr. Morris and let other claims stand without an equally strong investigation.
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