Backdoc Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 7 hours ago, MIB said: And a total lack of personal experience. I have had zero personal experience with a society of Bigfeet who bury their dead and have high order of human characteristics. Bob Gimlin didn’t either. Neither did Roger Patterson. They did both have one more experience than I have.
Huntster Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 8 hours ago, Backdoc said: I have had zero personal experience with a society of Bigfeet who bury their dead and have high order of human characteristics. Bob Gimlin didn’t either. Neither did Roger Patterson. They did both have one more experience than I have. If sasquatches exist, the Patterson/Gimlin experience of a surprised sasquatch walking away is not going to be the only kind of sasquatch/man experience to occur. While you are free to limit your own interest in the subject to the PG experience, others might wish to discuss other testimony or evidence, which might be described as the "best evidence" we have, even if it is not proof of anything. Another thought on kidnapping is that there is PROOF (ie, better than "best evidence") that other species will actually raise baby humans to adulthood. The Zana story forced me to invest just a bit of thought into the phenomenon of feral humans, and the fact that such species as wolves, domestic dogs, monkeys, gazelles, bears, sheep, and goats blew my mind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child The feral human phenomenon is a huge part of this "wild man" field in many ways. That includes misidentification of wild Homo sapiens as another species, and sasquatches (or almastys) possibly kidnapping Homo sapiens for various reasons.
Backdoc Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Huntster said: If sasquatches exist, the Patterson/Gimlin experience of a surprised sasquatch walking away is not going to be the only kind of sasquatch/man experience to occur. While you are free to limit your own interest in the subject to the PG experience, others might wish to discuss other testimony or evidence, which might be described as the "best evidence" we have, even if it is not proof of anything. Discuss away. No problem here. I will still await MIB's best evidence since he made the claim and I will consider it when or if presented. I don't think it is right for anyone else to feel the need to try to explain what they think he means or think he was getting at. He can do that if he wishes. If not, no biggie. 27 minutes ago, Huntster said: Another thought on kidnapping is that there is PROOF (ie, better than "best evidence") that other species will actually raise baby humans to adulthood. The Zana story forced me to invest just a bit of thought into the phenomenon of feral humans, and the fact that such species as wolves, domestic dogs, monkeys, gazelles, bears, sheep, and goats blew my mind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child The feral human phenomenon is a huge part of this "wild man" field in many ways. That includes misidentification of wild Homo sapiens as another species, and sasquatches (or almastys) possibly kidnapping Homo sapiens for various reasons. When someone is lost in the woods: They died in the elements > They went tribal with Bigfoot. Wild man stories are true in some cases and sensationalism in others. Even then, they don't tell us a lot about bigfoot specially. I am not saying they don't tell us some amazing happenings sometimes challenging our assumptions. We need to be cautious. Anyone one of us can want something to be true so much we lose our objectivity. I have read where Roger Patterson was dumped in a couple of cases where others claimed they had Bigfoot in a cage in a cave or monastery in Tibet. Roger wasted his last money and time on earth trying to find that Bigfoot lead. We all have a viewpoint about Bigfoot. We need to be careful we don't read too much into what we wish to believe.
norseman Posted 3 hours ago Admin Posted 3 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Backdoc said: Discuss away. No problem here. I will still await MIB's best evidence since he made the claim and I will consider it when or if presented. I don't think it is right for anyone else to feel the need to try to explain what they think he means or think he was getting at. He can do that if he wishes. If not, no biggie. When someone is lost in the woods: They died in the elements > They went tribal with Bigfoot. Wild man stories are true in some cases and sensationalism in others. Even then, they don't tell us a lot about bigfoot specially. I am not saying they don't tell us some amazing happenings sometimes challenging our assumptions. We need to be cautious. Anyone one of us can want something to be true so much we lose our objectivity. I have read where Roger Patterson was dumped in a couple of cases where others claimed they had Bigfoot in a cage in a cave or monastery in Tibet. Roger wasted his last money and time on earth trying to find that Bigfoot lead. We all have a viewpoint about Bigfoot. We need to be careful we don't read too much into what we wish to believe. The best evidence that Bigfeet can be found in groups is the Olympic Project nesting site. In one case they found like 8-9 nests all together on a bench. Assuming 1 Sasquatch per 1 nest? Yah that’s a group.
Huntster Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Backdoc said: .........When someone is lost in the woods: They died in the elements > They went tribal with Bigfoot........... Why is this so difficult for you? Not everybody who is "lost in the woods" dies. Some return. I've already posted a reference. I'll do so again here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child
Backdoc Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, norseman said: The best evidence that Bigfeet can be found in groups is the Olympic Project nesting site. In one case they found like 8-9 nests all together on a bench. Assuming 1 Sasquatch per 1 nest? Yah that’s a group. My dog can’t sit on my couch without leaving hair everywhere. Our too-costly vacuum is challenged from our need to vacuum hair nearly daily. If you are aware, was hair found in the nest and was it tested? I would expect it should be in everyone of these nests. With that many, at least one.
Backdoc Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Huntster said: Why is this so difficult for you? Not everybody who is "lost in the woods" dies. Some return. I've already posted a reference. I'll do so again here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child Not difficult at all. I made one point about one part of people getting lost in the woods and not coming back. I hope you would actually agree with me when this happens (and they often find a body) it’s extremely less likely to be due to Bigfoot. I wasn’t trying to cover each and every point on this subject. On the point you bring up I am aware people get lost in the woods and return from getting kidnapped, run away from home and so on. If someone claims they were kidnapped by Bigfoot such a story should get as much scrutiny than if they claimed they were attacked by a hiker, kidnapped, and robbed. Do you really think I’m not aware of this? If you find comfort in your tribal Bigfoot society belief because of incidence of wild boys that’s fine with me. I just don’t see it that way. I haven’t suddenly become aware these incidents of wild boys are out there. Every kid in 7th grade in my town studied about a boy later called Victor. That was the first of many times this type of subject came up. Its still a “So what” as it relates to tribes of bigfeet for me. I don’t know what you hope to achieve here. I am pretty aware of what you are getting at. I just don’t see it your way. On other issues we probably couldn’t be more in agreement. Just not this one. Edited 53 minutes ago by Backdoc
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