Patterson-Gimlin Posted Wednesday at 08:56 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:56 PM (edited) The paranormal woo aspect is quite disappointing. It is my opinion that these are excuses for no proof of the creatures existence. Better time could be spent procuring a body on a slab instead of being explained by Science fiction. This only makes the case that the creatures probably don't exist in any form. Ufos by definition are certainly real. Are they manned by extraterrestrials,probably not. Edited Wednesday at 08:58 PM by Patterson-Gimlin 1 1
norseman Posted Wednesday at 10:15 PM Admin Posted Wednesday at 10:15 PM 1 hour ago, TD-40 said: They only go home once a year. While here they have to live and deal with the natural elements. Hence you get footprints, nests, food selection, etc. And they use portals, not crafts. There. See how easy this is? Yes. But that still doesn’t explain why one isn’t stuffed in a museum. One year is plenty of time for a specimen to be collected by science. 1
MIB Posted Saturday at 03:15 PM Moderator Posted Saturday at 03:15 PM On 12/3/2025 at 12:56 PM, Patterson-Gimlin said: The paranormal woo aspect is quite disappointing. It is my opinion that these are excuses for no proof of the creatures existence. Better time could be spent procuring a body on a slab instead of being explained by Science fiction. This only makes the case that the creatures probably don't exist in any form. Ufos by definition are certainly real. Are they manned by extraterrestrials,probably not. I wouldn't quite put it that way though I can see how someone else might. I think people are just too "danged" sure of themselves, too sure of their infallibility, too sure a mere (monkey, primitive human, near human .. pick one) can't outsmart them. That leads to believing either bigfoot a) doesn't exist or b) must be "magical". For people who have seen enough, non-existence isn't an option. When confronted with what is left, a binary choice between accepting their own limitations or leaping to "magic", their feeble egos choose "magic" as the explanation. I don't happen to fall into that trap. That said, there are a few repeating occurrences ... in other words, good probability there is something real ... which are either beyond current science -or- there's a bit of trickery in play so that we fail to use the correct piece of current science when trying to understand / study / identify it. I think both of those are a cool challenge to try to get to the bottom of and I accept in advance that I may fail to do so. Doesn't make them magic though. (I think your assessment of UFOs, overall, is a very sensible place to start.) MIB 1
norseman Posted Saturday at 06:43 PM Admin Posted Saturday at 06:43 PM 3 hours ago, MIB said: I wouldn't quite put it that way though I can see how someone else might. I think people are just too "danged" sure of themselves, too sure of their infallibility, too sure a mere (monkey, primitive human, near human .. pick one) can't outsmart them. That leads to believing either bigfoot a) doesn't exist or b) must be "magical". For people who have seen enough, non-existence isn't an option. When confronted with what is left, a binary choice between accepting their own limitations or leaping to "magic", their feeble egos choose "magic" as the explanation. I don't happen to fall into that trap. That said, there are a few repeating occurrences ... in other words, good probability there is something real ... which are either beyond current science -or- there's a bit of trickery in play so that we fail to use the correct piece of current science when trying to understand / study / identify it. I think both of those are a cool challenge to try to get to the bottom of and I accept in advance that I may fail to do so. Doesn't make them magic though. (I think your assessment of UFOs, overall, is a very sensible place to start.) MIB I have gone hunting in snow and made a large loop and when I get back to the start? I have cougar tracks in my tracks. I have never seen a Bigfoot but I wonder how many times they have seen me. Sobering thought.
MIB Posted Sunday at 03:21 AM Moderator Posted Sunday at 03:21 AM 8 hours ago, norseman said: Sobering thought. Yes, at least at times. I'm not too concerned when I'm in my "research area" or in other parts of this general area. I know I'm watched, followed, occasionally on the losing end of what seem to be practical jokes / pranks. I think if I were in danger there I'd have turned up missing long ago. They're only there when safe food is plentiful. Other places I'd be more calculatingly cautious at least until I learned the vibe / ground rules of the place. I don't care for finding cougar or bear tracks in my tracks when I return. That puts my hackles up much more than BF does. And now we have wolves in increasing number / increasing distribution, some that have learned to overcome / ignore human hazing. Bigfoot is the least of those worries. 1 2
Popular Post MIB Posted Sunday at 06:14 PM Moderator Popular Post Posted Sunday at 06:14 PM This thought about tracks and encountering other critters .. I still think the most likely to be dangerous is other humans. There are a lot of good people out there. It only takes one problem person, though sometimes those travel in packs. Watch out around campgrounds and trailheads, they present a predatory person with an ideal opportunity .. people with their guard down, possibly few witnesses, and a ready way to escape / fade into the crowd (traffic). Maintain situational awareness .. ear buds out, cell phones pocketed / put away, hands free, and keys handy. You want to be able to walk to your car, open the door, throw in your pack, climb in, and drive away with no searching for keys etc while you are at your maximum exposure to risk. Probably all will be cool, but it is better to be over prepared than under prepared. 1 4
Huntster Posted Sunday at 11:07 PM Posted Sunday at 11:07 PM 4 hours ago, MIB said: ......... I still think the most likely to be dangerous is other humans......... Most definitely, if not in grizzly country........but sasquatches might be "human"........... Tom lions and mature boar black bears are very definitely predators of solitary people, especially kids and small women. I don't fear wolves at all now, having numerous encounters with them at face to face range.........unless there's a pack of them. Even then, they've never snuck up on me. I seem to have the body language that works with them. I've never heard of a lion dragging somebody out of a tent at night, but I don't have to worry about them up here. That's my ultimate bear fear. I feel a lot better about it if I think I can get my hand on my sidearm. At least that's what I tell myself. Vipers are my nightmare. Bears are easy. 1
MIB Posted 15 hours ago Moderator Posted 15 hours ago 16 hours ago, Huntster said: I've never heard of a lion dragging somebody out of a tent at night, but I don't have to worry about them up here. That's my ultimate bear fear Yeah, that is terrifying. Being trapped in tent fabric, maybe unable to free your arms and legs to put up a fight, while being eaten. I share that. In a way that's why I take a strange comfort in sensing the big folks near camp. My hope is the bears will stay away to avoid them. Might seem weird to people who are particularly afraid of bigfoot and I get that, but there is a hierarchy of concern and BF is nowhere near the top of my personal list. 16 hours ago, Huntster said: Vipers are my nightmare. Snakes don't bother me too much. I was bitten by a rattlesnake once .. I didn't care for it. I'm careful with snakes but they don't give me the visceral heebie jeebies the way spiders do. I shoot spiders. Around home my GF takes care of the spiders, I take care of any rodents (which affect her like spiders do me) .. it's a mutually acceptable tradeoff. Spiders + bears are why I like a mesh bug bivy for backpacking. Keeps the crawlies away but I can see around me if I hear something. Hand on sidearm .. yes .. and flashlight in the other. Being able to see is the great equalizer. Reminds me of the saying about "in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king."
Huntster Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 hours ago, MIB said: ......... In a way that's why I take a strange comfort in sensing the big folks near camp. My hope is the bears will stay away to avoid them........... I would agree that if you have sasquatches around, the bears are probably not. It's funny that the most famous nighttime sasquatch terror stories are the kidnappings of Albert Ostman and Muchalat Harry, both of which occurred in the 1920's........also when the Ape Canyon cabin attack occurred. No (or little known) kidnappings since. A sasquatch kidnapping might still beat a bear mauling while wrapped up in a tent........... 1
Catmandoo Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago 4 hours ago, Huntster said: No (or little known) kidnappings since. After Ostman and Ape Canyon, before PGF. A little known event in Washington. Seattle Magazine_ Our Last Monster.pdf
Catmandoo Posted 39 minutes ago Posted 39 minutes ago 4 hours ago, Huntster said: A sasquatch kidnapping might still beat a bear mauling while wrapped up in a tent........... Or wrapped in a sleeping bag.........
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