David Paulides' latest: American Sasquatch movie

[MIB]

I watched the whole thing last night .. pretty good!    

[AtlantiS]

On 12/2/2025 at 11:24 AM, norseman said:

David Paulides isn’t “my guy”. But unlike you I find value in the 411 books. I would not have any of those cases on my radar without those books.

 

I am a UFO witness on numerous occasions. I absolutely know for a fact they are real. All lights in the sky doing maneuvers that falling stars do not do. And one silver metallic tube with no flight surfaces and no noise. No little green men or anything like that. Just UFOs.

 

The Bigfoot tracks I saw as a boy with my father were in deep snow. And I have never experienced anything that would connect the two phenomena together. Why would a Bigfoot trudge through deep snow if it can levitate or walk through a portal to travel? Makes absolutely no sense to me. And I can only speak to my own experiences.

 

Now how about you? Now that David has teamed up with Ron and is talking about supernatural Sasquatch does that vindicate him in your eyes?

 

 

I have read the two missing 411 books, they are creepy and mysterious, in fact entertaining reads, and your right Paulides makes the cases more mysterious than they are... watch on youtube the Missing enigma, he is a real good researcher, he travels to the places where the missing happened and he debunked a couple of Paulides cases.

[CelticKevin]

I have a hard time with Paulides. I think he has gone the way of many researchers in that they start out earnest and grounded and then become more sensational than rational. Got to make a bigger splash than the last time they wrote a book or made a documentary  Got to keep the community eyes on them.  Got to keep squeezing the turnip hoping to stay in the forefront and recognized. It seems to be its own rabbit hole. 

[MIB]

9 hours ago, AtlantiS said:

I am a UFO witness on numerous occasions. I absolutely know for a fact they are real.

 

Do you know what they are?   Have any firm belief about what they are, where they are from?   

 

I, too, have seen things overhead that I can't identify making them, in the most literal sense, UFOs, but I have no proof they aren't misidentified things from right here on earth.   (We can take it off-line or to another sub-forum if you think it best.)

 

MIB

 

(PS: I'm baaaaack!! )

[Doodler]

UFOs are real, why not. They're just not identified to a specific make or model of aircraft or spacecraft.

 

Every year we learn about stuff, mostly various military platforms that have been in operation for decades already and who the hell knows what propulsion is in place already.

 

Every year more and more speculation occurs that our current culture isn't the first culture on the planet or even the first species with a culture, and every year we learn more and more about the cosmos that makes it clear many distant suns have planets and many of those are what we would call habitable.

 

So when someone sees something maneuver wildly, believe 'em.

 

I once saw the moon full and low in the Southern sky. Had to be about 79 or 80. Summer. The moon is never low in the southern sky here in upstate NY. I thought it looked odd, and drew it to the attention of a buddy's dad. He stood there staring at it for a very long while. That freaked me out as much as anything. I don't remember what happened next. I assume us kids got bored and continued on being noisy jackasses running around the neighborhood.

 

As far as Paulides, I can't tell if he's trying to grasp at the facts in common between the sightings and disappearances and just missing the mark on purpose or on accident. I enjoy some of his stories, but when he gets to the woo, it makes it less credible to me 

[georgerm]

On 12/2/2025 at 11:24 AM, norseman said:

David Paulides isn’t “my guy”. But unlike you I find value in the 411 books. I would not have any of those cases on my radar without those books.

 

I am a UFO witness on numerous occasions. I absolutely know for a fact they are real. All lights in the sky doing maneuvers that falling stars do not do. And one silver metallic tube with no flight surfaces and no noise. No little green men or anything like that. Just UFOs.

 

The Bigfoot tracks I saw as a boy with my father were in deep snow. And I have never experienced anything that would connect the two phenomena together. Why would a Bigfoot trudge through deep snow if it can levitate or walk through a portal to travel? Makes absolutely no sense to me. And I can only speak to my own experiences.

 

Now how about you? Now that David has teamed up with Ron and is talking about supernatural Sasquatch does that vindicate him in your eyes?

 

 

 

Dear Norseman thank-you for at least discussing the paranormal attributes of bigfoot that quite a few observers have reported. When I observed bigfoot in 1980, it definitely appeared as a flesh and blood creature living in the woods near a little Oregon town in Oregon called Prospect. Since then and years later I was taking trips to the woods and attempting to see bigfoot again. This is when I was hit in the face with paranormal aspects of bigfoot. I questioned my sanity and tossed the whole bigfoot topic in the trash and decided to quit my quest to learn about bigfoot. After a few years I began my quest to study bigfoot by joining Bigfoot Forum. My energy has evaporated at the age of 78 due to health problems so bigfoot forum is my way of pursuing the topic.

 

I don't believe bigfoot is piloting UFOs but possibly bigfoots are captured or created by aliens and the aliens provide bigfoot with a few paranormal attributes so it can evade capture by humans. Are transported to Earth in UFOs for some reason? Can you think of a reason? There are a few bigfoot sighting reports where bigfoots are seen in the proximity of UFOs. Are Bigfoot, UFOs linked? Expo attendees think so - Navajo Times

[WSA]

Where Paulides loses me is at the idea of “fallen angels”. He doesn’t define this term, and seems to rely on the reader/listener to bring their IYKYK sensibilities to the discussion. As someone raised in the Episcopal, and later on, the Presbyterian (USA) church, I am well acquainted with the concept, but he is pretty much on the fundamentalist dog-whistle track with that.
 

But…to attach much credibility to the whole idea requires a belief in the inerrancy of scripture, especially  Old Testament writings. I don’t have too much faith in the Bible being mostly more than an assemblage of allegorical oral traditions…selectively edited by those paying for the work (Looking at you, Emperor Constantine).  How the whole idea of angelic transgressors is relevant to solving the problem is left unsaid. It smacks of superstition to me, and is a typically Western solution to explain anything outside of man’s rational experience. If we are relying on Jesus to explain Bigfoot to us at the Rapture, I for one find this less than satisfying. 
 

Not wanting to move the discussion too far down this path, as faith is a very sensitive topic to delve into, but do any have opinions to help illuminate what exactly Paulides feels, and Carpenter felt, and how this is at all relevant or useful?
 

 

[norseman]

1 hour ago, WSA said:

Where Paulides loses me is at the idea of “fallen angels”. He doesn’t define this term, and seems to rely on the reader/listener to bring their IYKYK sensibilities to the discussion. As someone raised in the Episcopal, and later on, the Presbyterian (USA) church, I am well acquainted with the concept, but he is pretty much on the fundamentalist dog-whistle track with that.
 

But…to attach much credibility to the whole idea requires a belief in the inerrancy of scripture, especially  Old Testament writings. I don’t have too much faith in the Bible being mostly more than an assemblage of allegorical oral traditions…selectively edited by those paying for the work (Looking at you, Emperor Constantine).  How the whole idea of angelic transgressors is relevant to solving the problem is left unsaid. It smacks of superstition to me, and is a typically Western solution to explain anything outside of man’s rational experience. If we are relying on Jesus to explain Bigfoot to us at the Rapture, I for one find this less than satisfying. 
 

Not wanting to move the discussion too far down this path, as faith is a very sensitive topic to delve into, but do any have opinions to help illuminate what exactly Paulides feels, and Carpenter felt, and how this is at all relevant or useful?
 

 

He has bitten the Melba Ketchum lure, hook line and sinker.

 

Thats where the “fallen angel” stuff comes from.

 

I think you all know what I think of Ketchums work. Your mileage may vary.

[norseman]

2 hours ago, georgerm said:

 

Dear Norseman thank-you for at least discussing the paranormal attributes of bigfoot that quite a few observers have reported. When I observed bigfoot in 1980, it definitely appeared as a flesh and blood creature living in the woods near a little Oregon town in Oregon called Prospect. Since then and years later I was taking trips to the woods and attempting to see bigfoot again. This is when I was hit in the face with paranormal aspects of bigfoot. I questioned my sanity and tossed the whole bigfoot topic in the trash and decided to quit my quest to learn about bigfoot. After a few years I began my quest to study bigfoot by joining Bigfoot Forum. My energy has evaporated at the age of 78 due to health problems so bigfoot forum is my way of pursuing the topic.

 

I don't believe bigfoot is piloting UFOs but possibly bigfoots are captured or created by aliens and the aliens provide bigfoot with a few paranormal attributes so it can evade capture by humans. Are transported to Earth in UFOs for some reason? Can you think of a reason? There are a few bigfoot sighting reports where bigfoots are seen in the proximity of UFOs. Are Bigfoot, UFOs linked? Expo attendees think so - Navajo Times

Or? We are humans and our brains naturally want to fill in the gaps?

 

Where I saw the trackway and many UFOs? Was on the family ranch. Not at the same time mind you. But if I had seen the two phenomena at the same time? I still wouldn’t link them. No more if I saw a herd of Elk with a UFO overhead.

 

I would have to see a craft on the ground with a door open and Bigfeet get out. But Ive never seen Bigfoot and Ive never seen a craft on the ground. In fact all have been just lights other than the silver tube.

 

I can only go off my own experiences and for you yours. I dont know.