New Film Shown at South by South West "Capturing Bigfoot"

[Sircalum]

3 minutes ago, RedHawk454 said:

So who was in the suit?  Bob heroinimois or Deatley?

Was it a suit? What did Gimlin say? Was it a full confession? That’s the only thing that would seal Patty’s fate in my mind I don’t trust the mystery film it could have been made after Patty and the date is just the freshness date when it was manufactured?

[RedHawk454]

I am a believer in Sasquatch but I can’t outright say that the PGF isn’t some fat dude in a latex, skin tight suit with ape looking hair on it.  If anything suit in the late 60’s could be superior than today’s stuff since people actual did a quality job back then 

 

With that said, Pattys right pectoral muscle twitch, flex, and movement as she turned to look at the camera looks genuine muscle fiber moving and on a large relic hominid creature and not something faked. You see bodybuilders make those pec flexes especially in side chest poses.  I can do it to.

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 07:17 PM by RedHawk454

[RedHawk454]

3 minutes ago, Sircalum said:

Was it a suit? What did Gimlin say? Was it a full confession? That’s the only thing that would seal Patty’s fate in my mind I don’t trust the mystery film it could have been made after Patty and the date is just the freshness date when it was manufactured?

I’m just trying to follow the claims the other side is making.  For decades it was claimed by Bob H that he was the one in the suit and his what, 2005 recreation of it in a very inferior looking suit isn’t convincing.  Now there’s this other guy, DeAtley, who I’ve never heard of in BiGFO0Tery, is a person the other side is claiming to be in the rehearsal suit. 

[RedHawk454]

The beauty of the PGF is that, it doesn’t provide any proof that Sasquatch is real,  but it can’t be disproven either.  The film is inconclusive.  And that’s what makes it great. 
 

Both sides can only make claims.  Nothing so far has been definitive 

Edited yesterday at 07:29 PM by RedHawk454

[RedHawk454]

Roger Patterson burnt the alleged suit because he wanted to get rid of evidence but felt the need to keep the rehearsal Film, which is claimed he himself filmed lolololololololololz

 

yeah, the logic is starting to make complete sense..

[norseman]

43 minutes ago, RedHawk454 said:

I’m just trying to follow the claims the other side is making.  For decades it was claimed by Bob H that he was the one in the suit and his what, 2005 recreation of it in a very inferior looking suit isn’t convincing.  Now there’s this other guy, DeAtley, who I’ve never heard of in BiGFO0Tery, is a person the other side is claiming to be in the rehearsal suit. 

https://www.deatleycrushing.com

 

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/al-deatleys-house/view/google/

 

 

[Incorrigible1]

It's neither here nor there, but I'd like to again point out Heironomous claims he was to be paid $1000 for his supposed stroll in a bigfoot costume.

 

That's a ridiculously high sum of money.

 

 

[Sircalum]

Bob Gimlin’s reported confession can’t be ignored it would be the final nail in the coffin. I have to see it for myself though.

[wiiawiwb]

"O Ye of Little Faith."

 

We have the answers in our midst. Go back to the BFF 1.0 and review the analysis and discussions about Patty's proportions, including calculations, related to that. I am fortunate to have followed them daily, in real time, watching issue after issue unfold and then be addressed with calculations. It was a true pleasure.

 

I believe Gigantofootecus first posted his observations about Patty's proportions in November 2005. He used photogrammetric calculations to arrive at his conclusions. Anyone claiming PGF is a hoax has to get past those calculations--good luck, you better brush up on cosecant-squared theta, you'll definitely need it. Absolutely fascinating work to formulate his conclusions. 

 

Then came Bill Munns with his detailed treatise which methodically examined every aspect of Patty's body in the PGF from head to toe. He left no stone unturned with his stunning and detailed work viewed from the perspective of an expert in filming and suit construction. There probably is no one who knows more about the PGF than he. Then, SwetiYeti painstakingly presented his elbow/arm proportion analysis. 

 

It's all there for everyone to view. There is no new video that can undo the spectacular work nor refute the conclusions heretofore by BFF members with respect to the PGF, in my opinion. 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by wiiawiwb

[RedHawk454]

4 hours ago, wiiawiwb said:

"O Ye of Little Faith."

 

We have the answers in our midst. Go back to the BFF 1.0 and review the analysis and discussions about Patty's proportions, including calculations, related to that. I am fortunate to have followed them daily, in real time, watching issue after issue unfold and then be addressed with calculations. It was a true pleasure.

 

I believe Gigantofootecus first posted his observations about Patty's proportions in November 2005. He used photogrammetric calculations to arrive at his conclusions. Anyone claiming PGF is a hoax has to get past those calculations--good luck, you better brush up on cosecant-squared theta, you'll definitely need it. Absolutely fascinating work to formulate his conclusions. 

 

Then came Bill Munns with his detailed treatise which methodically examined every aspect of Patty's body in the PGF from head to toe. He left no stone unturned with his stunning and detailed work viewed from the perspective of an expert in filming and suit construction. There probably is no one who knows more about the PGF than he. Then, SwetiYeti painstakingly presented his elbow/arm proportion analysis. 

 

It's all there for everyone to view. There is no new video that can undo the spectacular work nor refute the conclusions heretofore by BFF members with respect to the PGF, in my opinion. 

 

 

At the end of the day though, proportions, analysis, and other units of measurements or what not to determine if the PGF is authentic doesn't mean anything.  It's just a bunch of guys doing the best they can to come up with compelling arguments as to why it authentic.  I was actually kinda happy Bob Gymlan (the BiGFo0T content creator on youtube) took a shot at thinkerthunker because of thinkerthunkers methods of analysis using horizonal lines and stuff to measure proportions.  Which is fine, but youtube videos analysis doesnt prove the PGF is real nor does anyone else's methods.  They're just compelling arguments and thats all they are.  I dont know who it was but someone claimed Patty was 7'4" at least.  NO ONE knows how tall Patty is/was.  

 

 

 

 

[CelticKevin]

Okay, so my long winded two cents is this and as I said in another thread;

 

 

If this was a hoax, where is the costume? If it was that good and undoubtedly revolutionary in design and realism, then why would they destroy it or let it be lost? Any good con man would keep such an article around to keep milking the public. Cripes, look at Fraud Standing and his abysmal fakes. Everyone with half a brain cell can see his evidence is as phony as a football bat but that doesn't keep him from parading it out for whatever publicity he can get. By all accounts Patterson was an opportunist. So why didn't he keep that suit working for more such amazing film and press? You can't tell me something as good as that would be allowed to be lost or disposed of out of fear. 

 

 

 

As for Meldrum saying something big was coming, perhaps he was NOT talking about it being proven a hoax, but rather this film would stir up a detrimental controversy and set BF research back several years. Maybe he knew the powers that be would be working to suppress evidence or muddy up the waters. 

 

What about Gimlin? Has anyone gotten his reaction to this yet? I'd be real interested to see his reaction to it and what his response would be. I can't honestly think anyone involved would be worried about legal repercussions as we've seen hoaxes before and nothing of substance has happened to the hoaxers. Hell, if it was a hoax, they could make even more money writing books and making appearances talking about how they pulled it off over so many years. 

 

 

 

Could this be people just tired of dealing with it and deciding the best way to get bigfooters off their backs and make a little cash is to **** in everybody's punchbowl and call it a hoax? Or even simpler, it is just a way to get a bit of money and be sensationalistic to feed the machine? Because....why now? Why now are they choosing to make this revelation at this time? Why not 5 years ago or 10? It seems over 10 years ago I read a book, forget the title, about it being a hoax and people who knew Patterson at the time talked about seeing the suit in a box in a trunk and how they all knew what was up but had reasons for keeping quiet. I didn't let it eat at me. But you are forced to keep a open mind to the possibility. And after reading Munns book, and others, I leaned further into it being legit. 

 

 

I agree that too many people have seen and heard Sasquatches and collected enough evidence that they more than likely exist. I also know that until we have at least two bodies, the mystery will always be with us. I've always felt the footage was real. But I will admit, now there is that kernel of doubt. And that is sad. It's akin to seeing your dad stuff your stocking at Christmas when you're a kid.