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23 hours ago, Trogluddite said:

This is a great point - Bigfoot probably do leave signs, but ... 

 

1) If they live in very remote areas, few people will go there to find those signs.

2) If they dine and dash (graze on plants or pick off animals and then move on), then the evidence won't accumulate in one neat pile.

3) As a large animal, they probably have a large home range, so the bread crumbs are scattered over a very wide area.

4) The largest (credible) group of Bigfoot I've seen reported is 4 at one time, two adults and two juvenile-sized Bigfoot.  If they do congregate somewhere, its very far from where humans go.

 

Not arguing with any of the points you made - just want to start fleshing out some common sense (I hope) explanations for when skofftics show up and start saying, "where's the poop, where's the bone piles?"

 

I agree with you on this. 
 

To me Bigfoot is near extinction which explains a lot.  

[Trogluddite]

^^^

Well, that made me curious. While statistics often don't tell the whole picture, here's some data for the northeast US and eastern Canada (generally east of the St. Lawrence).

 

* The number of possible encounters reported before the P-G film is likely low due to both a lack of human witnesses and a lack of places where a report could be made without the human being locked up as a lunatic.

 

* The higher levels in the 70s, 80s, and 90s would have been driven primarily by "big" encounter reports (the P-G film, Fouke monster, etc.).

 

* The really big spike in the 2000s is due to?  Not 

 

[MIB]

Can you dig into the 2000s more specifically?     I'm curious whether the increase came before or after Mysterious Encounters.   It may have prompted an increase in reporting / knowledge of where to report in a manner similar to Finding Bigfoot.

[Huntster]

5 hours ago, MIB said:

Can you dig into the 2000s more specifically?..........

 

Yeah, like was this spike continental, or just in the northeast? 

 

I note that the BFRQ was founded in 1995, and the original BFF was founded in 2002.

 

"Harry and the Hendersons" was released in 1987.

[xspider1]

On 8/15/2026 at 4:08 AM, guyzonthropus said:

Koko and her sign language is actually quite remarkable. She not only used words in proper context, indicating conceptual understanding, she also would combine two words to express something she didn't already have a word/sign for....

 

I guess the next stage of the experiment, were it not for contagions, would be to release signing great apes back into wild populations to see if this spread through different groups, and if they would find it an adaptation that betters their chances of survival or expands their capacity for abstraction.

It is of interest to note that not only gorillas have learned this, but also chimps and orangutans, so there's some underlying predisposition for language amongst all of us.

 

Fascinating!  And, I totally agree when you said:  "Then there's the awareness you're being tracked/hunted, which is something all sorts of animals display."  Just try squashing a fast cockroach/waterbug!  They are about 350 million years ahead of humans in evolution and they can virtually disappear. 

 

I wonder why Koko was a one-off?  Perhaps she had a beneficial mutation that apparently was never passed-on (no kids).  Although I did read that she adopted several cats.    

[Huntster]

9 hours ago, xspider1 said:

.........I wonder why Koko was a one-off?..........

 

I don't think she was. She just got the early education other gorillas didn't get. And she was female.