Why is the Forest Service and BLM so quiet about Bigfoot?

[georgerm]

When I was younger, I had a dream Landscape Architect job with the Forest Service designing a large RV campground and a recreation park along the Applegate River in southern Oregon that took a year to do. I'm 79 now and want to be truthful about memories. After this was completed, my job became irritating and boring. No more parks were on the horizon, and my new job was to fool the public about logging! It was a clever plan that I've kept secret until now. My job was deception and to drive the main national forest highways and mark all the forest areas on a map that one can see from the road. I also marked forest areas behind mountains that were not seen. Can you guess where the plan for public deception is headed? The hillsides marked as unseen while driving the highway were going to be clear cut of all trees which upsets the public because Bamby the deer's forest was going to wiped out with logging and clear cutting. The refreshing forest seen from the highway were going to be preserved and all is good in nature land ................ so the public thinks. Needless to say, I became out raged, quit, and went to a different landscape architect job. My point is deception by the federal government that is also taking place with bigfoot. The forest service hires credentialed wildlife biologist and how many bigfoot reports have you read from one of these biologist? They spend hours driving remote forest roads, and hike on trails and a few of them must have seen bigfoot. Lots of people see them. I have two friends that saw one and I saw one too. See my eye witness sketch is below. Do some internet searches and find even one report by a forest service biologist that mentions or even focuses on bigfoot. One of the forest service's duties is to study and protect wildlife during logging operations. You as a taxpayer are still being kept in the dark when if comes to bigfoot? How do you feel about this dilemma?  What is your opinion? Should I have quit the forest service? Are we being kept in the dark?                             My sighting is below.

Edited September 25 by georgerm

[guyzonthropus]

I heard about such practices a long time ago, and wouldn't be at all surprised to hear they're being considered once again as the current administration continues selling/leasing federal lands. Wasn't it the movie Brazil that ends with people driving down a highway with either a strip of forest along each side of the road or billboards blocking any view but the road itself(its been decades since I saw it..) And as the movie ends the camera pulls back and up, revealing all the surrounding hillsides clear cut to the dirt?

 

I think I might well have done the same, choosing to not be a a part of the deception, much less a part of the machine that advances such destruction of forest and habitat.

 

I have read a number of accounts submitted by current as well as former Forest Service agents/rangers/workers over the decades of reading accounts. But realistically, you'd think that if they reported all they'd seen that there would be a whole lot more of such accounts. It would be fascinating were there found a record of all bigfoot/sasquatch reports submitted by park visitors to rangers of a given park, even unofficial, just the guys at the desk writing them down, if nothing else, for even "just" that could show actual numbers of encounters, possibly seasonal trends, maybe even give some insight to their numbers in the immediate area.

[georgerm]

On 9/27/2026 at 12:19 PM, guyzonthropus said:

I heard about such practices a long time ago, and wouldn't be at all surprised to hear they're being considered once again as the current administration continues selling/leasing federal lands. Wasn't it the movie Brazil that ends with people driving down a highway with either a strip of forest along each side of the road or billboards blocking any view but the road itself(its been decades since I saw it..) And as the movie ends the camera pulls back and up, revealing all the surrounding hillsides clear cut to the dirt?

 

I think I might well have done the same, choosing to not be a a part of the deception, much less a part of the machine that advances such destruction of forest and habitat.

 

I have read a number of accounts submitted by current as well as former Forest Service agents/rangers/workers over the decades of reading accounts. But realistically, you'd think that if they reported all they'd seen that there would be a whole lot more of such accounts. It would be fascinating were there found a record of all bigfoot/sasquatch reports submitted by park visitors to rangers of a given park, even unofficial, just the guys at the desk writing them down, if nothing else, for even "just" that could show actual numbers of encounters, possibly seasonal trends, maybe even give some insight to their numbers in the immediate area.

A campsite with a fire and cooking is a good way to attract a bigfoot rather than walking around searching for it. One has a chance to see a Sasquatch because bigfoot is curious and may sit while hidden and watch the activities. Bigfoots live in the deep forest where animals are plentiful so let bigfoot find you. Campers have a much better chance of seeing a bigfoot, a hoofed animal, or a bear. BFRO has lots of bigfoot evidence reports, but many parts of states go a long time before an actual sighting report is filed. Most reports are class two or three meaning bigfoot was not seen but signs of forest use were observed. Bigfoots also do their best to avoid humans probably because they witness humans tearing up their habitat with heavy equipment and clear-cutting forest. They watch game animals being shot by hunters which probably makes them wary of humans.

 

If bigfoots were ever discovered and were no longer a myth as the forest service has them classified, they probably have a good chance to be on the endangered species list. I have lived in Oregon my entire life, am 79, and have spent plenty of time in the forest or along rivers. I have seen plenty of deer, a few elk, and a least 5 bears. Most Oregonians never see a bigfoot then one day my luck changed roughly on my 40th birthday. During a moon lit night, I saw a bigfoot sneaking around our campsite while we slept out in the open. You can see my bigfoot sketch on the other thread I started. As mentioned before, camping is probably the best way to see a bigfoot. Camp out in a remote forest that has many BFRO reports, sleep under the stars, and hang some food from a tree. Leave the dog in the car at night, don't shoot guns, and carry on with your normal routine. Your luck may change.

[norseman]

On 9/25/2026 at 2:30 PM, georgerm said:

When I was younger, I had a dream Landscape Architect job with the Forest Service designing a large RV campground and a recreation park along the Applegate River in southern Oregon that took a year to do. I'm 79 now and want to be truthful about memories. After this was completed, my job became irritating and boring. No more parks were on the horizon, and my new job was to fool the public about logging! It was a clever plan that I've kept secret until now. My job was deception and to drive the main national forest highways and mark all the forest areas on a map that one can see from the road. I also marked forest areas behind mountains that were not seen. Can you guess where the plan for public deception is headed? The hillsides marked as unseen while driving the highway were going to be clear cut of all trees which upsets the public because Bamby the deer's forest was going to wiped out with logging and clear cutting. The refreshing forest seen from the highway were going to be preserved and all is good in nature land ................ so the public thinks. Needless to say, I became out raged, quit, and went to a different landscape architect job. My point is deception by the federal government that is also taking place with bigfoot. The forest service hires credentialed wildlife biologist and how many bigfoot reports have you read from one of these biologist? They spend hours driving remote forest roads, and hike on trails and a few of them must have seen bigfoot. Lots of people see them. I have two friends that saw one and I saw one too. See my eye witness sketch is below. Do some internet searches and find even one report by a forest service biologist that mentions or even focuses on bigfoot. One of the forest service's duties is to study and protect wildlife during logging operations. You as a taxpayer are still being kept in the dark when if comes to bigfoot? How do you feel about this dilemma?  What is your opinion? Should I have quit the forest service? Are we being kept in the dark?                             My sighting is below.

I am a firm believer in logging. And reducing the fuel load on public forests. Its a shame that the Forest service tried to hide it from the public who obviously doesn’t understand wild land fire behavior. They unfortunately only understand it when their house burns down. Which is the inevitable result of bad policy decisions decades earlier.

 

Deer and Elk also love the young browse that comes after a logging operation or a burn. The forest floor receives more light allowing younger plants and different species to thrive.

 

But should you have quit? In the words of John Wayne? A man outta do what he thinks is right!

 

The government is a giant bureaucracy. Anyone who has worked for them should understand. Anyone who doesn’t probably thinks it is ran like a business. It is not. There are secret agendas and public PR campaigns that don't always align.

 

I don’t pay attention to

much noise. Just the results. And if your forest is burning down around your ears each year? Somebody is not doing their job.

 

 

[norseman]

https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-wildfires-keep-burning-monday-as-2026-becomes-worst-year-on-record-grasshopper-big-grass-wrights-spring-crook-jefferson-klamath-wheeler-county

[georgerm]

23 hours ago, norseman said:

I am a firm believer in logging. And reducing the fuel load on public forests. Its a shame that the Forest service tried to hide it from the public who obviously doesn’t understand wild land fire behavior.

 

 

 

The forest service designs and use to hide timber sales that helps remove fuels that build up in old growth forest and provides fuel for forest fires. Areas to be logged must be in proportion to the size of the drainage basin where the logging will occur. If a drainage basin is over logged then massive erosion will occur that floods creeks and rivers with brown sediment that can wipe out trout, salmon, and steelhead. Each drainage basin can have limited and planned logging which may need to be in public view, so fish are protected and wildfires are kept to a minimum. After a planned clearcut, grasses, brush, and small trees begin to grow back which supplies deer, and elk fresh leaves to brouse on. Bigfoots ability to raise a family and to find food is improved since deer and elk survive on the new growth springing up on clear cut land. However, during hunting season, Bigfoots ability to feed its family is reduced since bigfoots must evacuate prime hunting grounds to avoid regular hunters and hound hunters which forces bigfoot to hunt at night when hunters are absent from the woods. During hunting seasons bigfoots may need to hunt higher in the mountains where deer might be less prevalent and access roads are nonexistent.

 

In general, the lives of bigfoots were probably more difficult during time when pioneers flooded lands throughout America. Bigfoots obvious desire to avoid humans has increased since the pioneer days which could have made them an endangered species that could go extinct. Since bigfoots are so difficult to find and to gather evidence on how they live, it becomes nearly impossible with present means to study them so they can become a documented and proven species. How we avoid killing a male and female bigfoot to prove their existence is a topic for another paper that could include hiring a massive forest workforce supplied with tranquilizer dart guns. Once proven, bigfoots and their habitat will probably receive national protection. Areas close to their nesting grounds will probably need laws to reduce hunting in these areas, build roads away from their homes, and supply food during winter months to prevent them from going extinct.     

 

[Huntster]

1 hour ago, georgerm said:

........the lives of bigfoots were probably more difficult during time when pioneers flooded lands throughout America. Bigfoots obvious desire to avoid humans has increased since the pioneer days which could have made them an endangered species that could go extinct.........

 

It's an interesting thought exercise to consider how the sasquatch species was affected by the arrival of non-indigenous people. First, native Americans lived in groups and villages that were mostly nomadic, and their weapons were close ranged. When Europeans arrived, the Homo sapiens population numbers exploded within a very short period, they established towns and cities that remain and some of which have grown into metropolises, and we now have the capability of shooting them from a quarter mile away. 

 

Sasquatches have shared this continent with native Americans for at least 12,000 years, but the past 200 years have changed everything.

 

Indeed, we can even categorize the past 200 years:

 

1825-1925: Occasional contact with European explorers, trappers, and prospectors

1925-1955: Increasing contact, and the beginning of mass media exposure of the species to humanity

1955-today: An explosion of sasquatchery in the Homo sapiens consciousness, beginning with contact from people penetrating the Six Rivers National Forest timber sales and the modern media

[georgerm]

2 hours ago, Huntster said:

 

It's an interesting thought exercise to consider how the sasquatch species was affected by the arrival of non-indigenous people. First, native Americans lived in groups and villages that were mostly nomadic, and their weapons were close ranged.

Sasquatches probably looked at native Americans more favorably since they had a low impact on their environment and the creatures were probably not afraid once they became used to living around the native Americans. This cohesiveness probably varied from tribe to tribe and more hostile tribes may have been averse to enjoying the company of bigfoots. The same applies in reverse with family groups of bigfoots who did not trust humans so it's difficult to know the relationship between the two groups. The relationship between modern humans and bigfoots today is probably far worse than when native Americans were dominate. Modern humans today have built the Forest Service that doesn't even recognize bigfoot probably due to admitting there is a bigfoot would amount to territory protection and vast reductions in logging if environmental groups demand extreme Sasquatch land protection.