Guest MikeG Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 To be realistic, Mulder, citing another website (Lawnflowersjerkyandbigfoot) for verification of your claim that the US government has important information on sasquatch, isn't really going to stand up in court. Mike
Guest Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 The incidents are listed. That's about as good as it's going to get unless someone has the funds to put up a FOIA request, and even then more detailed information would be required. I was adding on to Thriller's response to the post that claimed that BF were never spotted on IR/FLIR by officials. He suggested cover up. I pointed out that there are incidents on record.
bipedalist Posted August 22, 2012 BFF Patron Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) ... are they intelligent enough to know that by howling and leaving structures they are encouraging us to look for them? Do they ever consciously make themselves visible to us? I think that a lot of the sighting people have are perhaps accidental, on both the parts of the witness and the Bigfoot itself. Who knows. Best., Lee Yes and yes Why I haven't a clue . Maybe boredom? Maybe just enjoying playing football with a human's head? I also think it would make a good thread but overlaps with so many other threads that i think alot is already posted up, it's just hard to find Edited August 22, 2012 by bipedalist
Rockape Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 ^My apologies. However, how can you answer the fact with all this "evidence" there is still no proof? I don't really see a question there to answer, but absolute definative proof is what we all want. Many folks here are trying. It's not their fault it hasn't happened yet. If that video is the proof the world is waiting for, why isnt it everywhere? This time next year you are all still going to be making the same excuses as to why you cant find bigfoot. 5 years from now same story. I don't recall HR ever saying the video is proof of anything. I think he knows better.
Guest Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Any researcher that has ongoing activity knows how difficult it is to get a visual on this species. I'm going into my fifth year of research this October and I'm no closer than when I started. Exactly right. We have both been out and doing this for the same amount of time, and have experienced similar results. You also have to be in an area with ongoing activity, and do some traveling..if it is not right by where you live. Even then, there is no guarantee you will experience ..anything. I've learned so much in a short time. It's not that difficult to gain their attention. It is difficult however to gain a visual or gather evidence of their presence. Agreed, and learning (Not proving) is my goal, as well. I make no excuses for lack of provable evidence.. because that is just the way it is. Anyone else, that has experienced the same or similar.. will know what I talk about, might ring a bell with them. As far as the rest, I could care less what they think or post. I don't mind helping out folks, that are truly interested.. or have experienced things they can't explain, or quite accept yet. Always happy to talk about, what I don't yet know.
salubrious Posted August 22, 2012 Moderator Posted August 22, 2012 If BF distribution is as numerous and widespread as researchers claim, how is it that these surveys have never detected 800 lbs. of upright walking primate flesh? " Maybe they have and they are not telling you..... That's been my assumption for a while, since seeing TimbergiantBigfoot's YT video about a chopper looking for something in his research area. "Do they ever consciously make themselves visible to us?" Definitely. But its rare, and when/if it happens, it will be one of the weirder and more out-of-the norm kind of encounters.One post and look at all the response. That guy really got us going huh?
Guest Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Yo, Marlboro, you're giving me negative waves....
Guest Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Interesting debacle here. I'd probably argue my thoughts in a 2 page long subject, but I'd rather not regurgitate everything I've said in the past about the evidence and so forth. Simply put, there's evidence, just no definitive proof.. ..yet.
yowiie Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 The grooming pics are not from a trail cam. Someone in a stand took them. Where can I find this grooming footage, is it available
Guest Particle Noun Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 You won't find it. It is in the possession of HRP, and due to being a man of his word, he is not sharing it around, since he was asked not to do so by the person who supplied the footage to him.
Drew Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 So Bigfoot escapes detection by being in dense woods, far away from game cams? Yet we know that environmental studies are taking place and have been running continously for decades in some of the most out-of-the-way places in forests that even hunters might not frequent. Some of these studies employ grids of cameras covering areas, they employ bait stations, fur traps, and pressure plates for footprints. We also have a contradiction in that most sightings take place in relatively semi-rural areas. Farm fields, casino parking lots, near gatherings of dozens of Bigfooters camped out in relatively accessible places, trailer parks, people's front yards, across from Bill Green's apartment in Connecticut, rest areas, mountain roads, etc... So the deep deep forest conceals them, yet they are seen in relatively non-remote areas most of the time. It doesn't jibe. I find it difficult to believe, that any animal, even one that can sense game cams, could avoid them 100% of the time. Hunger would force it to wander into a field, or the sounds of birds chirping, or the lights of a nearby casino parking lot, or the sound of farm implements would impair it's ability to be 100% immune to the game cam. This doesn't even take into account, the fact that none have been creamed by a big-rig. They avoid cars, they are smart enough to evade commercial haulers, yet I just saw a sighting that said they were SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AT NIGHT?!! The opinion of the opening poster is legitimate, it is not overly critical, it is asking why does Bigfoot's abilities seem to mold and fluctuate to explain why it can not be proven to exist. The poster is not deserving of being labeled a Troll by forum management certainly. Any Bigfooter who can read the opening post, and not agree that some of the super-natural-applied attributes of Bigfoot are a bit silly, needs to step up and explain in detail, how every large mammal in North America has been nailed by a car/truck, or caught on a camera, but not the Bigfoot.
Cotter Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Drew, I think an assumption you make is that these organizations will run out and tell everyone. Additionally, the guy that hits one with his big rig - even if he/she stops, is able to locate the carcass, and then does what, call the authorities? Who then run out and tell everyone? Yet, if said organization or authority DOES come out and say they experienced it, they then get shuffled into the 'crazy, liar, mistaken, etc' folder, thus putting everything right back into the 'where is the evidence' mode. I wouldn't be so quick to assume that everything going on regarding wildlife is simply handed out to the masses to digest. Quick question - has Marlboro commented or posted in this thread since the OP?
Guest BFSleuth Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 The poster is not deserving of being labeled a Troll by forum management certainly. ... nor has he been. Nor should forum members question moderation in the open forum (see rule 3A). Use of PM's with moderators or other staff is the correct method for anyone with any concerns.
Guest FuriousGeorge Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Please stay on topic. The topic is Bigfoot Research. This thread is not a platform for anti-establishment conspiracy theories.
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