Guest Luckyfoot Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Since there have been a number of people attempting to identify and locate the cabins, there are a number of specific attributes of them I'm not going to comment on, including amenities. Besides, if y'all found out we're really just sitting around in the hot tub sipping umbrella drinks and writing it all off on our taxes, how would that look? Rofl Bipto. Yur the best. If yur going to let the cat out of the bag , you might as well let on you have the wood apes trained to make apple martinis and they cut the limes exactly the right size to fit in the corona bottle... Edited November 29, 2012 by Luckyfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Really. Never in your whole life have you ever heard anyone use the word "ape" synonymously with "gorilla?" Fascinating. I guess he's never seen ANY of the the King Kong films, or heard of the Hannah-Barbara cartoon character "Grape Ape", the animated 40 ft purple Gori-la-la-la-la. Go to Google Image and enter the search term "Ape". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the parkie Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Hi Bipto I don't think this has been asked - apologies if it has. Are you aware of the Larry Surface video that was online some while ago before it was taken down? I believe he used a cam on the inside of a front door 'spyhole' and successfully filmed a sasquatch / wood ape / old age pensioner on the other side of the door, depending on your opinion! If one assumes that it was a sasquatch, then this technique worked. I just wondered if something like his set up would be possible at the cabin given that you have mentioned something coming on to the porch - ie putting a small "spy hole" in the corresponding wall with a similar cam on your side of the wall? I don't know the specific camera that he used, although I'm sure someone would be able to elaborate if it would help. I know video is not your primary goal, but just wondered if this would be possible as a concept at your cabin, or if it has been considered? When does the next operation start by the way? I'm sure you've already stated this sorry, but the thread is enormous now! Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I just wondered if something like his set up would be possible at the cabin given that you have mentioned something coming on to the porch - ie putting a small "spy hole" in the corresponding wall with a similar cam on your side of the wall? We're looking at a variety of camera options. Theoretically, something like the set-up you describe could be used in X. When does the next operation start by the way? I'm sure you've already stated this sorry, but the thread is enormous now! We will have another long-term operation next year, but we don't release specific dates for the start and finish. Also, we don't talk about the operation while it's going on (I didn't discuss my May sighting publicly until September). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtex Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 So Bipto......you are with the TBRC? Sorry, rarely come from under my rock, hadn't seen this thread (yeah, must be blind too!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the parkie Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) We're looking at a variety of camera options. Theoretically, something like the set-up you describe could be used in X. That kind of set-up would seem the most obvious to try to me, given so many reports of sasquatches avoiding / recognising cameras in some way. I should qualify this by also adding that I have no direct experience in these matters, being in the UK! Also, we don't talk about the operation while it's going on (I didn't discuss my May sighting publicly until September). Do you mean to say the cabin has no Wi-Fi?! Sorry, couldn't resist! Thanks for the answers Bipto. Edited November 29, 2012 by the parkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) So Bipto......you are with the TBRC? Sorry, rarely come from under my rock, hadn't seen this thread (yeah, must be blind too!) Yep. It's even in my signature! ↓↓↓ Edited November 29, 2012 by bipto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yep. It's even in my signature! ↓↓↓ Cryptids, hiding in our very midst. A demonstration, if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 To be fair, I never used the little arrow thingies until now. Maybe should have tried the red circles first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Thought I'd re-start with back-reference to this: I expect that if we do get a photo it will eventualy be released, but only if it's clear and can add to the knowledge base on these animals. We're not interested in producing yet more internet fodder to be chewed over forever. The recently released Oklahoma Prairie photos on our website, for example, which I think are some of the best ever taken were roundly criticized by people on Facebook who obviously knew nothing about thier background and provenance. I was having arguments about whether or not there were still green leaves on trees in OK at that time of year *in that year*, for pete's sake. We do want to share and only withhold information when it's strategically necessary, but it can also be very disheartening. I've experienced a lot of the uninformed stonewalling you are referring to. There seem to be two things all Americans know: how to paddle a canoe and Bigfoot isn't real. Here's an example of another report leavened by unclear, but compelling, photos: http://208.109.31.18...rt.asp?id=23160 Again, none of these will go down as the money shot. You wouldn't see these or the OK photos if I had shot them, unless they were included in the filing of a sighting report. But in both cases, it is clear that first, a large object was on the scene; second, it was moving; and third, there was nothing resembling it in that spot when a followup was conducted. (And it was bigger than the "test human" by approximately the factor recorded in numerous accounts.) They only make sense with a report that explains them; but they leaven that report and take it one important step away from sure, just a story. Now if only you got dunked and durn near drowned every time you judged without evidence, just like with that canoe that sure you knew how to paddle. Edited November 29, 2012 by DWA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Do you mean to say the cabin has no Wi-Fi?! If you sit on the left side of the hot tub, you can get wifi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) To be fair, I never used the little arrow thingies until now. Maybe should have tried the red circles first. "arrowsquatch," new meme. Be the first on your block. Um, on second thought, not. If you sit on the left side of the hot tub, you can get wifi. You've done it now. The skeptics will go: not remote enough! How could they be right on our doorsteps? Edited November 29, 2012 by DWA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Here's an example of another report leavened by unclear, but compelling, photos: Man, how have I never seen those before!? I'll need to read that report. You've done it now. The skeptics will go: not remote enough! How could they be right on our doorsteps? Actually, I'm counting on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Man, how have I never seen those before!? I'll need to read that report. Actually, I'm counting on it. They can't be seen on roads, trails and near buildings! That's not remote enough. How do people see them, then? There are thousands of sighting reports. Those are bad evidence. I actually had a guy argue with me on another thread: sure we ignore sighting reports! They couldn't hide in the places you say they're seen. He didn't get that if you blow off reports, they don't need to hide...? Edited November 29, 2012 by DWA To remove unecessary content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Orygun Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 A couple things stood out for me when listening to the podcasts describing some of the events at Operation Persistence: When the cameras were moved from the cabin(s) to the hillside the activity moved from the hillside to the cabin(s). When the cameras were moved down from the hillside I assume the activities shifted as well? I wonder why all of the cameras were moved, I would have assumed that some would have been left to observe the cabin(s) area. What efforts have been made around extreme concealment of the cameras, as it appears that the subjects tend to make every effort to avoid known cameras? This could include placing the cameras extremely high in a tree or using sufficient camouflage. Have either of these techniques (or others) been attempted? The other thing that has been mentioned is GoPro or similar cameras worn by the investigators. One technique that might work is a head-mounted camera and a wired remote. The wire would run down the sleeve of the user. As soon as a recordable event occurs the remote would be immediately triggered by the remote which would be situated near the user's hand. Naturally the user would orientate their head towards the subject thus immediately capturing the event. No need for pulling a camera out, turning on and aiming. It would all be intuitive. Here's an example of a wired GoPro remote. http://cam-do.com/wired.html The audio of the rock throwing events, while interested and required for sharing via the podcast, would be really fascinating if captured on video. A most fascinating video would be if an investigator threw a baseball or other recognizable object towards the subjects and have it thrown back. And lastly, without an idea of how the subjects will react or respond if one of their kind are slain I'd be very fearful for retribution by a large number of them. With an unknown quantity of subjects in the vicinity it may not be favorable for the investigators, despite feeling adequately armed. Most weapons capable of stopping, for example, a charging full grown grizzly with a bad attitude, are rarely quick to reload or maneuver in the bush. I hope that if a subject is taken down that there would be a full support team, heavily armed setting up a defensive perimeter. Even then things could get hairy. Take that last sentence any way you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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