Guest fenris Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Do you believe in global warming? based on the afct we have only a century(ish) decent understanding of how weather works I take it with a grain of salt, and regardless, a good bit of the travel would be a massive change of environment, proto man has proven he could make the journey. If it came here from there, it was a proto human, not giganto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fenris Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 The documented presence of the red panda, an ecological and temporal contemporary of G in N America is highly dispositive that the ecological conditions in that time frame were NOT "alien" and hostile to G survival for such a journey. (LMS pp95-96) 1) red Pandas are not quite so monkeyish and they didnt travel over a land bridge to North America, we are gonna have to disagree here, thats a lot of conjecture imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fenris Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 There are too many documented ape features for it to be from the "human" line, let alone the size. Nope, not if you go far back enough, and with what we have in the way of specimen, nothing we're both guessing at this. What I saw was not more monkey than human, somewhere near 55/45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fenris Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 See my response to Fenris plus LMS pp187-191 for a discussion of the dietary requirements of a large omnivore and the relative ease with which one can obtain needed food in the appropriate habitat. just curious, is LMS your only reference on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntster Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 based on the afct we have only a century(ish) decent understanding of how weather works I take it with a grain of salt I used the word "climate", not weather. It is pretty well established that a land bridge (Beringia) occurs when so much of Earth's water is locked up in ice, which is a dramatically different climate than today. More, the ice must be somewhere else if Beringia is a "land bridge", huh?: The Bering land bridge was a land bridge roughly 1,000 miles (1,600 km) north to south at its greatest extent, which joined present-day Alaska and eastern Siberia at various times during the Pleistocene ice ages. It was not glaciated because snowfall was extremely light due to the southwesterly winds from the Pacific Ocean having lost their moisture over the fully glaciated Alaska Range. The grassland steppe, including the land bridge, that stretched for several hundred miles into the continents on either side has been called Beringia. and regardless, a good bit of the travel would be a massive change of environment Unless the travel was due to chasing the habitat that they were losing. proto man has proven he could make the journey. If it came here from there, it was a proto human, not giganto. Neat assumption. It may be correct. And it may not be, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fenris Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Neat assumption. It may be correct. And it may not be, too. yep, just my opinion on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Fenris, pardon me if this is a 232nd repeated question for you, but did you lay out any information on your observation (as you put it: what you saw). Not being 20 anymore, I am trying to recall a thread that had your situation in it.. love to either a.) read it again or b.) exchange with you on it, here or wherever. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ajciani Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 There are too many documented ape features for it to be from the "human" line, let alone the size. The problem with this is that the "ape" features may have been "enhanced" by persons who were pushing bigfoots as apes. If you read the NABS site, they state that artist sketches and report submissions had been altered to make the bigfoots seem more ape-like. This was apparently discovered when NABS people met witnesses at conferences who related such things to them as sketch artists ignoring their statements, and editing of their reports. I myself have heard people describe them as "men". In fact, one witness described what she saw as a "big guy with rasta hair." The witness didn't even think it was a bigfoot, until she told her boyfriend (who had seen one as a child), and she realized how big, wild and hairy he looked. The size is also questionable. Most witnesses report bigfoots in the 6.5 to 8 foot range. This is easily within the human lineage. The 10 footers I would have to question some. Just realize, there were 7.5 foot tall Homo sapiens running around North America at one point. The Susquehannock were described by Europeans as giants, about 7 feet tall, and that was their typical size. There is no evidence that G was a bamboo eater. The teeth show evidence of silicates as part of the diet, of which bamboo is only one type of silicate. Silicates are minerals. Phytoliths are silicified parts of plants. What were found on the G. blacki teeth were silica (aka opal) phytoliths. Each plant species makes phytoliths with a unique structure, and so what G. blacki ate can be determined by what was left on the teeth. What was found were phytoliths from grasses and fruits. The grasses were probably bamboo, and the fruits were most likely durians. Interestingly, the closest living relative of gigantopithecus, the orangutan, eats a nearly identical diet. From all indications, gigantopithecus (all species) were giant orangutans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 There are at least two possible lines of primate ancestry known that might potentially apply to sasquatch: 1. The genus Gigantopithecus; 2. the robust australopithecines. I would have laughed once upon a time at anyone who suggested 2; I am now virtually convinced that if it's one of those two...it's 2. lt could, of course, be another lineage, even one for which scientists have found no fossil evidence yet. It was recently speculated that we have evidence for only 5% of the total species of primates that have existed. That's a lot of missing links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) You're on a necro-posting tear, replying to posters long gone, now listed as "guests." Edited May 26, 2017 by Incorrigible1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 So are you, it appears. You guys just appear to need a whole lot of, you know, help with stuff. You know, of course, that my posts are of general interest, not just to the person I'm responding to? Who if they ever see this good for them, who if they don't who cares? No. How could you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchunk Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 My vote would be for a missing link, the giganto idea is just far fetched to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Far be it from me to deprive the BFF world of your blazing brilliance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiiawiwb Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I don't think it Giganto at all. I think it is some very close offshoot of humans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchunk Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 16 hours ago, wiiawiwb said: I don't think it Giganto at all. I think it is some very close offshoot of humans. That would make more sense. Giganto is an attempt to reshape a puzzle piece to make it fit the piece that is missing in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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