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Joey, I agree there are many holes and I have not believed it but, I will just wait and see what Derek says. I do know for a fact he would not lie to me.

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KB - That’s reassuring but some of these Hollywood props are so convincing almost anyone can get fooled.

Think about this - a dead creature - that just ate food.

That food would be rotting with in the body cavity, and like every other animal that dies including humans, the body relaxes and all your body fluids get released like urine.

The smell would be unbearable, yet I have heard of no speak of the smell.

When you break down the details it just doesn’t add up

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Hey Joey, I edited your post and made your font bigger, I couldn't read it. But, I agree with all of that. I mentioned it way earlier in the thread about the smell. I am a taxidermist, so I know about that! Supposedly, there is some embalming that has been done.

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Joey - Musky gave us the initial breakdown of what his lawyer was given by the storage facility. It said the body was partially embalmed. The organs and organ cavity were what was embalmed. It said freezing was absolutely out of the question because the water molecules in the skin would crystalize and wouldn't allow forensic studies (which were still to be done) to be done.

The smell from the organs wouldn't be a problem. The hair, flesh, nails and rest of corpse would be fall victim to decomposition.That's the odor that would be noticeable. After that came to light, Musky said he didn't know and it might have been frozen, but then the hair would be cracked and the skin would get freezer burn and would still look to be in a deteriorated state.

(Speculation) The hair in the plastic bags along with shaved stomach and neck with no incisions or exit wounds... sounds more like they were plugging the hair into those areas. Would explain why Musky couldn't enter when they first got there and why he couldn't pull any hair out when he tried.

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Aw he did provide a very good film from his phone!! A film that shot to No. 2 best ever. Isnt that good enough for the time being?

Um, no, because it's a very good match for a known bigfoot mask.

Also, just because FBFB says it's #2 does not make it so - it may be their #2, but it sure aint mine.

I would point out that they had a vested interest in it because they "confirmed" it BEFORE it came out that it was from Rick - by then they were already committed, hence the meteoric rise in the rankings... The FBFB guys have been caught out before by people admitting that they hoaxed videos that FBFB had confirmed, yet FBFB have never admitted they were duped - there's no shame in saying you were wrong, but they just can't bring themselves to do it.

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Another thing look at the pictures of RD and MA in Vegas.

First picture in the car MA is wide eyed and bushy tailed.

Next picture looks like he had a few.............. or covering his eyes, cause if he cried you would see red around the eyes.....a true cover up LOL

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Joey - Musky gave us the initial breakdown of what his lawyer was given by the storage facility. It said the body was partially embalmed. The organs and organ cavity were what was embalmed. It said freezing was absolutely out of the question because the water molecules in the skin would crystalize and wouldn't allow forensic studies (which were still to be done) to be done.

The smell from the organs wouldn't be a problem. The hair, flesh, nails and rest of corpse would be fall victim to decomposition.That's the odor that would be noticeable. After that came to light, Musky said he didn't know and it might have been frozen, but then the hair would be cracked and the skin would get freezer burn and would still look to be in a deteriorated state.

(Speculation) The hair in the plastic bags along with shaved stomach and neck with no incisions or exit wounds... sounds more like they were plugging the hair into those areas. Would explain why Musky couldn't enter when they first got there and why he couldn't pull any hair out when he tried.

Just curious..what do you think a body like this would cost? It must be quite convincing. That then begs the question...why on earth would Dyer go through all the trouble and expense of housing an elaborate fake body in some type of facility just to pull off a hoax? Keep in mind, The 08 body was quite unsophisticated..and wasn't kept in a special strorage/lab facility. Then you have this 9 page NDA drwn up by lawyers...lot of fuss for a hoax. Seems like a LOT of trouble to go through doesn't it?

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When you break down the details it just doesn’t add up

That is for sure! None of it makes any sense, and there is not a shred of evidence that it is true. All of it is based on RD's and Musky's claims.

Also, just because FBFB says it's #2 does not make it so - it may be their #2, but it sure aint mine.

I would point out that they had a vested interest in it because they "confirmed" it BEFORE it came out that it was from Rick - by then they were already committed, hence the meteoric rise in the rankings...

Definitely not # 2 for me. I don't think that's a real BF at all.

I agree that FBFB is too far in to backtrack now.

Another thing look at the pictures of RD and MA in Vegas.

First picture in the car MA is wide eyed and bushy tailed.

Next picture looks like he had a few.............. or covering his eyes, cause if he cried you would see red around the eyes.....a true cover up LOL

Maybe the photo was taken right after he took off the blindfold. *click!*

Kidding!

Just curious..what do you think a body like this would cost? It must be quite convincing. That then begs the question...why on earth would Dyer go through all the trouble and expense of housing an elaborate fake body in some type of facility just to pull off a hoax? Keep in mind, The 08 body was quite unsophisticated..and wasn't kept in a special strorage/lab facility. Then you have this 9 page NDA drwn up by lawyers...lot of fuss for a hoax. Seems like a LOT of trouble to go through doesn't it?

Good questions. The logical conclusion would be that it's not elaborate at all. Just words. No real body, no fake body, no facility, no 9-page NDA, no lawyers.

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You could examine the trajectory of the bullet that killed this creature.

How far was RD away?

How tall was the BF?

Did the bottom two teeth get blown out or the top?

Does the bullet exit hole make sense?

Additionally since BFs are very large there would have been a large amount of blood loss.

Actually what happened to the blood? If they did do an intestinal embalming what did they do with all the blood?

Also, if they do some embalming wouldn't they have to plug the ends? Like sew the mouth and anus?

If the bullet travelled through the back to the front wouldn't embalming fluid leak with a tear to the back of the throat?

Too many questions not enough answers………………………………..

Just curious..what do you think a body like this would cost? It must be quite convincing. That then begs the question...why on earth would Dyer go through all the trouble and expense of housing an elaborate fake body in some type of facility just to pull off a hoax? Keep in mind, The 08 body was quite unsophisticated..and wasn't kept in a special strorage/lab facility. Then you have this 9 page NDA drwn up by lawyers...lot of fuss for a hoax. Seems like a LOT of trouble to go through doesn't it?

Film budjet........... I would assume prehaps in the $75,000 range, you could make that up with movie distribution and DVD sales.

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Just curious..what do you think a body like this would cost? It must be quite convincing. That then begs the question...why on earth would Dyer go through all the trouble and expense of housing an elaborate fake body in some type of facility just to pull off a hoax? Keep in mind, The 08 body was quite unsophisticated..and wasn't kept in a special strorage/lab facility. Then you have this 9 page NDA drwn up by lawyers...lot of fuss for a hoax. Seems like a LOT of trouble to go through doesn't it?

They have a wax museum right in Vegas and Biscardi is building one in California. If it was gonna be built anyway, why not build a story around it first? A nine-page NDA can be downloaded off legalzoom.com in 5 minutes. Dyer also claims to be getting $20k a month from investors..

You have to remember he WANTS to embarrass the community. He always has. His few brief moments of calm don't fool me. He's vindictive and has never gotten over 2008. And he's the one that continually brings that up.

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Good questions. The logical conclusion would be that it's not elaborate at all. Just words. No real body, no fake body, no facility, no 9-page NDA, no lawyers.

Ok..so you're taking the Musky/SHILL thesis and not the fake body. This will then render Dyer's offer to Randles a lie. If that's the case, Dyer is essentially setting himself up to be exposed as soon as he fails to deliver on his offer. Makes ZERO sense. If Dyer tries to stall Randles (more than a week or two), that tactic will also be perceived as welching on the deal. Dyer is now LOCKED INTO showing Randles a body.

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I looked at the tent video again. It does not (to me) like the camera is pointing up at much of an angle. The tent screen is about 32 inches from the ground. The torso in the video would be more upward in angle if this big boy is 7 ft 7in

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They have a wax museum right in Vegas and Biscardi is building one in California. If it was gonna be built anyway, why not build a story around it first? A nine-page NDA can be downloaded off legalzoom.com in 5 minutes. Dyer also claims to be getting $20k a month from investors..

You have to remember he WANTS to embarrass the community. He always has. His few brief moments of calm don't fool me. He's vindictive and has never gotten over 2008. And he's the one that continually brings that up.

$20K from investors for what purpose?

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