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Hi Melissa - Yes RD has stated that there were away from the site outlined in a more remote place. They talked to the homeless people but camped further away. Where we dont know.Maybe in they got permission to enter the private land or Military base that Cisco mentions. Who knows?

Dyer, in his radio blog stated that the actual *event* took place within *miles* of the purported area near Home Depot. Still...you're in an Urban area..not out in the boonies. So, as other's have postulated...this would have ATTRACTED ATTENTION from possible homeless/campers to LAW ENFORCEMENT. Shots...BIG BODY..bloody mess...pandemonium from those at the scene. Folks...Dyer must be LOVIN' all this attention here. Carry on...LOL...

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Mel, that was a typo I made. I went there in December and was told by a homeless person that a film crew had been out there a few months ago. I assumed they were talking about RD's crew. However, they never specifically mentioned RD or Minnow by name. Again, that was my assumption.

Hopefully, I'll be able to go out there again this weekend, for some follow up.

If anybody has specific questions you want me to ask or something you want me to look into, please post them on this forum. I plan on checking out the property behind the Home Depot, as well as trying to get more detailed info from some of the homeless people camped in the area.

I heard that Dyer had said there were homeless people involved, who weren't homeless anymore. I'm assuming he means they were paid for their assistance and silence. Could you ask around, if there is any truth to this?

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Well, I'll echo the bullet sentiment. It's got to do with transfer of forces. However, I hunt with a 30.06, 150 gr, ballistic tip. I have shot several deer in the head at close range. Their heads do not explode, it puts a good hole in the head, but doesn't vaporize it or the like.

Soft points would do more of that sort of stuff as the force gets transferred from the bullet to the body much fasters by having the bullet expand.

Also, at close range like that, I'd like to clarify, the bullet would be LOWER than the point of aim due to the arc required. This is assuming he had it sighted in at 100 yds or so. Additionally, no way ANY round from a 30.06 would only knock teeth out....

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It's not just RD's part that makes this story so unbelievable....it's the fact that everything we "know" ( or I guess what we thought we knew? ) about Bf is the opposite of what took place. The BF moved slowly enough for RD to get a good aim and take him down. The animal came back to the same place, for the same bait....knowing people would be there. The finale is what gets me. Even well hidden trail cams have a difficult time catching an image of BF, we assume because the animal is intelligent enough to know what they are, but this animal comes twice to a place FULL of people with cameras. I mean a film crew! It all seems so unlikely, RD being the one making the claims is just the cherry on top.

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Well, I'll echo the bullet sentiment. It's got to do with transfer of forces. However, I hunt with a 30.06, 150 gr, ballistic tip. I have shot several deer in the head at close range. Their heads do not explode, it puts a good hole in the head, but doesn't vaporize it or the like.

Soft points would do more of that sort of stuff as the force gets transferred from the bullet to the body much fasters by having the bullet expand.

Also, at close range like that, I'd like to clarify, the bullet would be LOWER than the point of aim due to the arc required. This is assuming he had it sighted in at 100 yds or so. Additionally, no way ANY round from a 30.06 would only knock teeth out....

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Thats interesting Cotter. So what kind of damage do you think would be made if shot at 25yrds and at 50yrds?
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Folks...Dyer must be LOVIN' all this attention here. Carry on...LOL...

I think that is what he strives for, attention, positive and negative!

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Maybe you shouldn't post publicly exactly when you will be going. :blink: Just concerned for you, man.

Yes I might get on a 747 from London to San Antonio and them hide in the bushes.......and go boo! (sorry I am in a silly mood tonight, I think its cos its Friday)! :queen:
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He came back for the McRibs!

My opinion, for the BF to go down immediately from that shot, the spinal column would have to be severed. If it missed and only took out the artery then he had to bleed out. Would not have died immediately.

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You know this theory about the bullets and the damage that they may have been caused is making me wonder that maybe this is yet another reason why the footage/film hasnt materialised yet? Maybe the bullets did infact blow the poor creatures head off and that is why photos/film is so sensitive to show? It would be a pretty shocking sight and would cause much anger? Maybe if 'the film company' did infact film this horrible massacre, then they possibly dont want to show this and that would in turn cause legal issues with proving that a creature was infact shot?

...hmmmm....more food for thought?

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Thats interesting Cotter. So what kind of damage do you think would be made if shot at 25yrds and at 50yrds?

Well, I would say that the damage would be near indiscernable between 25 and 50 yards as there would be plenty of force to put the bullet through the body unless you are getting up in yardage and losing enough force so that the bullet stops part way through. The consideration comes in on where to aim. But on a large target, typically the inch or so difference in where the bullet ends up is negligible.

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He came back for the McRibs!

My opinion, for the BF to go down immediately from that shot, the spinal column would have to be severed. If it missed and only took out the artery then he had to bleed out. Would not have died immediately.

I love McRibs.....they rock. I can see how a BF would take chances to get one. Especially since they're only out for a limited time.

I would also like to offer that if one did take a round to the melon there would most likely be enough of a shock to knock the subject silly, possibly unconscious until it indeed did bleed out......just tossing that out there.

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San Antonio ordinances

Sec. 21-152. - Discharge of firearm.hyperlink.png

(a)

It shall be unlawful for any person to discharge a firearm within the city limits of the City of San Antonio.

(B)

It is an affirmative defense to prosecution for a violation of this provision that:

(1)

The person discharging the firearm was a certified peace officer at the time and the discharge was done in the performance of his duties as such; or

(2)

The person discharging the firearm was a certified security guard at the time and the discharge was done in the performance of his duties as such; or

(3)

The discharge was justified under the provisions of Chapter 9 of the Texas Penal Code; or

(4)

The discharge occurred at a firing range or other area designated for target practice.

(Ord. No. 79328, § 2, 12-16-93; Ord. No. 84805, § 1, 9-19-96)

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San Antonio ordinances

Sec. 21-152. - Discharge of firearm.hyperlink.png

(a)

It shall be unlawful for any person to discharge a firearm within the city limits of the City of San Antonio.

( B)

It is an affirmative defense to prosecution for a violation of this provision that:

(1)

The person discharging the firearm was a certified peace officer at the time and the discharge was done in the performance of his duties as such; or

(2)

The person discharging the firearm was a certified security guard at the time and the discharge was done in the performance of his duties as such; or

(3)

The discharge was justified under the provisions of Chapter 9 of the Texas Penal Code; or

(4)

The discharge occurred at a firing range or other area designated for target practice.

(Ord. No. 79328, § 2, 12-16-93; Ord. No. 84805, § 1, 9-19-96)

Do those laws apply to shooting animals?
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