Martin Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 You're at least visible and tangible. But to put all your faith and trust in a supposed reputable scientific report signed off by an unknown Phd with a fictitious name,........ I mean........come on? You seem more intelligent than that. If that report went to peer review....... you know exactly where it would end up. What is wrong with the report other than the authors pen name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silent Sam Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 That website is an absolute train wreck. Unless it is a spoof you have to seriously question why anyone in their right mind would let something so shoddy and poorly put together go public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) The Melba Ketchum global sasquatch foundation website is now online. http://www.melbaketchum.org/home/ I like this quote from the site: " . Due to the efforts of our founder Dr. Melba Ketchum it has been proven that the Sasquatch are a human hybrid." oh and that disclaimer at the bottom is nifty too. The disclaimer is fascinating. Despite the Foundation's claim to be a non-profit organization, the IRS somehow has no record of the Foundation's 501 status that I can find. Meanwhile, the Foundation is registered in Texas as a general business, not a charitable organization. Oops. Edited to add: From their platform (emphasis added): The Foundation supports research efforts intended to learn more about the Sasquatch peoples, including but not limited to their way of life, culture, spoken and written languages, art, biology, diseases, populations, genetics, and their relationships to similar beings reported around the world. It is only proper to involve North American/First Nation Indian communities into this endeavor since majority of the historical data has come from these communities. A. The Foundation recommends that research must be conducted in a respectful/appropriate manner and that the anthropology community should be invited to engage in helping to develop research methods appropriate to an indigenous, aboriginal people. B. The Foundation asserts that interactions with the Sasquatch must be mutual and not forced. It opposes any attempt to capture or imprison Sasquatch for research purposes. C. The Foundation strongly encourages that federal research funding be made available on a significant and/or permanent basis. D. The Foundation encourages private industries/government forestry agencies that impact undeveloped land to provide research funding as a way to increase the awareness and understanding of the Sasquatch people their employees may encounter in these areas. E. The Foundation recommends that all museums housing remains of potential Sasquatch make those remains immediately available for scientific analysis, including but not limited to anthropological examination, photo/video documentation, measurements and DNA sampling. These remains should then be returned to the museums and properly classified. F. The Foundation supports respectful archaeological excavations of potential Sasquatch remains. G. The Foundation supports the ongoing research efforts of groups recognizing the Sasquatch’s true nature as a people. It does not support the activities of those organizations seeking to hunt, kill or capture Sasquatch or those subscribing to the belief that Sasquatch are animals. Respectful, anthropological research protocols would be implemented for the safety of the researcher and the Sasquatch people. Edited March 13, 2013 by leisureclass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyler H Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 "Please donate... together we can get the tangles out of these horses's hair" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thermalman Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) That website is an absolute train wreck. Unless it is a spoof you have to seriously question why anyone in their right mind would let something so shoddy and poorly put together go public. Agreed. What is wrong with the report other than the authors pen name? Ah Hello?....credibility?? Would you get a fictious person to DNA sequence your family tree? Edited March 13, 2013 by thermalman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WldHrtRnch Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) @ Tyler Edited March 13, 2013 by WldHrtRnch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Somehow I missed this gem: You can help this newly formed research organization through the purchase of commemorative and themed items available through Friends of Sasquatch. A portion of the proceeds will support the Global Sasquatch Foundation as it ramps up its operations and establishes itself as the premiere professional organization dedicated to Sasquatch. I'm betting that's a small portion It's interesting that Troy Hudson is the director of this thing. He's a federal law enforcement officer, or at least that's what he says on MK's facebook page. If that's true, he's really endangering his career by being involved with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 That website is an absolute train wreck. Unless it is a spoof you have to seriously question why anyone in their right mind would let something so shoddy and poorly put together go public. The website is hers, its linked on the Sasquatch Genome Project webpage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Zigo I can agree with your post on the grounds that we all should stick to the argument but the hard part is that human beings are behind that argument and it is difficult to not discuss the study without involving the actions of the person involved. Calling out the actions and methodology that Tyler, Bart, and their labs used is just as relavent as calling Ketchum out for her methodologies and actions. These actions and methodologies are part of the process that led to a conclusion. They cannot be simply ignored. Nor should their discussion be labeled as a personal attack. Saying that Dr.Ketchum's methods were bad is not the same as saying she is a bad person. People are trying to misconstrue the two. her actions have nothing to do with the data in the study, perhaps methods on how she did the test could be debated but claims of leaving people out of receiving money, and all the nonsense that goes along with it, has no bearing on this matter what so ever. accusations are not calling someone out, there is no proof to those claims so they mean nothing and have no bearing on her methods used for the test. buy saying she embezzled money and the other accusations have nothing to do with the methods she used. She does work for various law enforcement,including the FBI, as an expert witness relating to DNA, she helps put people in jail, and proved people not guilty, if her work is so bad, why do they use her as an expert witness ? Edited March 13, 2013 by zigoapex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silent Sam Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 The website is hers, its linked on the Sasquatch Genome Project webpage. It would be par for the course then. Carry on with the circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyler H Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Ah Hello?....credibility?? Would you get a fictious person to DNA sequence your family tree? It's not a fictitious person... a fictitious person would be Tom Sawyer. Clearly, SOMEONE created this pdf with Melba's data in it. That someone has provided you the means to see for yourself. You are choosing not to. So, just as clearly, it must either be the pen name you take issue with, or you just are too lazy to do a bit of work to convince yourself. Edited March 13, 2013 by Tyler H Remove Objectionable Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silent Sam Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 She does work of various law enforcement,including the FBI, as an expert witness relating to DNA, she help put people in jail, and proved people not guilty, if her work is so bad why do they use her as an expert witness ? That's a claim I haven't heard before. Can you site a case where she was employed by either the state or a defense team as an expert witness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 yes, it looks like the marketing has begun. Sasquatch wild wear should be making an appearance shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) That's a claim I haven't heard before. Can you site a case where she was employed by either the state or a defense team as an expert witness? That's a good question, and one I've also been curious about. I've searched in Lexis's expert witness database, and I can't find any record of her testifying as an expert witness. I have no idea why the FBI would hire her when their in-house crime lab is arguably the best in the country. Regardless, I think her days of being an expert witness have come to an end. Edit: testifying as an expert witness. Lexis's expert witness database wouldn't indicate if she testified as a lay person instead of an expert. Edited March 13, 2013 by leisureclass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyler H Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 That's a good question, and one I've also been curious about. I've searched in Lexis's expert witness database, and I can't find any record of her testifying as an expert witness. I have no idea why the FBI would hire her when their in-house crime lab is arguably the best in the country. Regardless, I think her days of being an expert witness have come to an end. Edit: testifying as an expert witness. Lexis's expert witness database wouldn't indicate if she testified as a lay person instead of an expert. I actually don't disbelieve the claims of having been involved in court cases, but her claim of having worked on the 911 tragedy is very suspect to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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