TimB Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Sorry I hadn't seen that. Why no visual? It's easier to gauge the veracity of a story if you can watch the person talking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted February 24, 2013 BFF Patron Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) So is the Sierra Kills a story or is it an incident? Smeja continues to call it a "story". Edited February 24, 2013 by bipedalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WldHrtRnch Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Thank you Scales. Listening now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crabshack Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Did you try the one in post 312? Listening to the video of Justin I can't help but feel bad for Wally and wonder if he has heard Justin's tell all. Yes I do seems someone wanted to waste Wally's money sending in a known chunk of bear flesh to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted February 24, 2013 BFF Patron Share Posted February 24, 2013 Sorry I hadn't seen that. Why no visual? It's easier to gauge the veracity of a story if you can watch the person talking... Oh, I got a pretty good feel for it without visuals, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 It's an audio recording of Justin's version of working with Dr. Ketchum. I've been listening for 6 minutes- nothing that hasn't already be said- several starts and stops. He enjoys retelling conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 @tim, you have the link to that audio recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted February 24, 2013 BFF Patron Share Posted February 24, 2013 http://www.sierrasiteproject.com/2013/02/justin-smeja-talks-about-last-two-years.html workable link ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasfooty Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Thanks for the update. I am a bit late to the whole MK project (following probably a year now). Good to know there were samples rejects. But in reading the paper I don't recall it saying something like - "207 samples collected, 111 passed initial review and sent out for genetic analysis". But still, all 111 samples came back positive for human cytochrome c! Still amazing, but not as shocking as what I have been reading this am! And it is not a theory, it is what is stated in the paper - if she had not added the word "all" that would have been better then. All 111 samples had to be either human contaminated or BF, although MK states they were no "heteroplasmic" bases, so this should rule on human contamintion. And could you tell me what samples in the end she determined to be BF - I can not find any statement saying which samples of the 111 were deemed positively IDed to be BF. I might have missed this, so please let me know if it was in there (or if you have any further thoughts on this). I didn't see where she specifically said any of them were positively ID'd as "Bigfoot". Seems like she called them unknown hominins or something like that. I don't know enough about genetics to have a sensible discussion about it with you, but I do know that she did reject some of the samples. I thought that the "all 111 samples" were the ones that could not be specifically ID'd to be something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mitchw Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I've heard this new recording. Someone is committing fraud. If I were Wally H., I would be out of my mind with rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 ...and MK could provide some proof of her claim that Justin swapped samples to give to Bart & Tyler. Believe (or not) who you want. It seems pretty clear to me who the more credible party is here. she suggested that what could of happened, she never said that is what did happen. what did say is the samples look different from one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slimwitless Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 So is the Sierra Kills a story or is it an incident? Smeja continues to call it a "story". I happen to find the guy credible. That's my story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I didn't see where she specifically said any of them were positively ID'd as "Bigfoot". Seems like she called them unknown hominins or something like that. I don't know enough about genetics to have a sensible discussion about it with you, but I do know that she did reject some of the samples. I thought that the "all 111 samples" were the ones that could not be specifically ID'd to be something else. Just going from what I stated form the paper - all 111 tested positive for human cytochrome b. She is claiming a new species - but fails to identify from which sample she is doing this from. That's all I am saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted February 24, 2013 BFF Patron Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) I happen to find the guy credible. That's my story. Better put some money on the story behind the boots then friend, LOL! I'm now thinking the best thing that could happen in that "camp" is for them to withhold the boots and cash-in now. If Mike Greene is reading, how about that last 5% of the book? Got any new revelations? Edited February 24, 2013 by bipedalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 TIME magazine's online newsfeed http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/21/bigfoot-dna-evidence-is-published-but-more-questions-are-raised/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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