Guest Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 When a ship sinks, there is panic, confusion, choas, then next thing you know it's going down in a hurry and is gone. Welcome to the shipwreck in the Bigfoot community known as February 2013! It seems all of our hopes for finally seeing a creature being proven have (or currently are) going down in flames. What have we been banking on that fell through recently? Sierra kills-bear. Ketchum study-joke not taken seriously by anyone credible. Daisy in a box- hoax. Dyer has a body- c'mon it's Dyer. Hoax. Erickson centerpiece "Matilda"- a Wookie mask hoax. We have one more hurdle to trip over and we are back to square 1. Square 1 is pointing to pgf as proof with no hope in the near future to best it. That last hurdle is Sykes. And as I have stated before, he did not set out to prove a yeti exists when starting his testing. I would suggest not holding your breath on that one. It's back to what we have known for years- it'll take a body. Live, dead, rotted corpse, bones etc. Period. No other way around it. No wild claims without proof either. Wake up one morning and it's footage of a body splashed all over every news outlet. No other way around it folks. It's time we prove they exist, and if it takes going from no-kill to pro-kill, that needs to be considered. It will take 1 body.
Guest Cervelo Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Some of us never left..... Please make room for the folks on the RD train it will be arriving soon... Edited February 25, 2013 by Cervelo
bipedalist Posted February 25, 2013 BFF Patron Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Funny alot of researchers have continued on without batting an eyelash over all of this, I know at least a few. They keep documenting, BF keeps eluding. If Sykes can retrieve something I'd be amazed but there could be a concomitant sample sent to him that may have been botched elsewhere who knows. Biggest hit for me, is that the Bigfoot as having very human characteristics will take the major brunt of this...... that will lead some researchers back to square one, for those that are persistent and know what they are up against, it will not. Edited February 25, 2013 by bipedalist
BobbyO Posted February 25, 2013 SSR Team Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) For many, the alleged train wrecks of the sierra shooting, ketchums paper, Erickson etc mean nothing and doesn't alter what they saw one little bit. If they are all a train wreck, it says more about the people involved than it does anything else. And as I keep telling everyone, human beings just aren't that great. But it certainly doesn't put the submitters of evidence back to square one, the submitters have undoubtedly made progress by submitting their evidence. Edited February 25, 2013 by BobbyO
Martin Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 ........ But it certainly doesn't put the submitters of evidence back to square one, the submitters have undoubtedly made progress by submitting their evidence. If you consider progress as in identifying that they don't have a squatch living in their study area I would agree. 100+ of the best samples known to mankind studied for 5 years and circa $500,000 to figure out how to tag the DNA as bigfoot = epic fail.
Guest Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I'm thinking Robert Altman. I'm thinking Hollywood. I'm thinking, It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World. You can't make this stuff up. It's unbelievable. There is a message here: You don't mess with the Sasquatch. Otherwise it'll mess with you. It'll mess you up, bad.
Guest Orygun Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 If the PGF is proven to be a hoax I wonder how many eyewitnesses will reconsider what they saw. In other words how much did viewing the PGF have on shaping what they saw. There is obviously a percentage of witnesses and "believers" that have minds that can't accept anything but what they have perceived to have seen. The brain is like that. It creates a reality and that reality is not easy to change. A lot of hope was put on Ketchum, Erickson and Sierra Kills. They are all gone now. At least for open minded people. PGF is next.
Sasfooty Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 You don't mess with the Sasquatch. Otherwise it'll mess with you. It'll mess you up, bad. Most that read this will think it's a joke, but it isn't. It's called "The Bigfoot Curse".
Guest TxNative Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I'm still against a premeditated killing of any one of these creatures.....just to expedite the desired result of proving they exist. I'm still concerned about what will eventually happen....if that morning of "breaking news" of their existence does occur. As BobbyO has stated.... "human beings just aren't that great"....and I echo the sentiment. Our "Society" overall,..(IMO) has too much baggage....priorities askew...acceptance of "irresponsibility" of wrongdoing,..etc, etc....for me to expect that it will be a good thing....when it does happen. I want to KNOW...like so many others....but not at their expense. I'd rather their "announcement" not be broadcast from the center of a 3 ring circus
Guest zenmonkey Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 You shouldnt see it as back to square one. We all shoulda (and hopefully you did)know that it was all a bunch of crap from the get go. So as far as that goes its not back to square one just keep on trucking my brother!
Guest Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I'm thinking Robert Altman. I'm thinking Hollywood. I'm thinking, It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World. More like APOCALYPSE NOW....
Guest Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I will admit, I caught the Bigfoot bug right about 2 years ago. Never been out looking or squatchin. I live in an area that is 90% open flat corn and bean fields. I got hooked from Monsterquest and various documentary shows. My quest for more knowledge led me here and other crypto sites. This was about the time Ketchum was "due" to prove it via DNA. I was gullible enough at the time that I bought it hook line and sinker. Over these past 2 years, I have learned enough about bigfoot and the people involved to feel like I am not a bf expert, but I darn sure know more about the subject than 99% of the general public. And in those 2 years, I learned enough to know this paper would never be published with genuine peer review in a respected journal. I honestly didn't think she would do anything for a final outcome. I figured the data and findings would be locked away and she be so stubborn to not release anyone from NDA. So, I did at one time think she had a home run here. But I was green to the subject and knew little about it. I lurked here for a while until a person using the name General started weighing in on the Sierra topic. I figured it out pretty quick who that was (the shooter) and became a member myself to interact with him. How cool would that have been to have asked (via forum) questions to the guy that killed Bigfoot and proved it to the world. As with Ketchum, my faith in that story faded quickly as well. Seems good old common sense will overcome hope eventually.
GuyInIndiana Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 If the PGF is proven to be a hoax I wonder how many eyewitnesses will reconsider what they saw. In other words how much did viewing the PGF have on shaping what they saw. What did or didn't happen in 1967 doesn't change what my son saw in 2003 and what I saw in 2009. A lot of hope was put on Ketchum, Erickson and Sierra Kills. They are all gone now. At least for open minded people. PGF is next. Odd. I'm open minded, but I never put any hope, faith or trust in any of those 3 things. They don't define or explain the phenomenon.
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