Guest Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 ^I do really like that report, and I have no reason to believe any part of it is anything but accurate. Except the size estimate of the creatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm skeptical of the size estimates because people sometimes exagerate, although sometimes they may not be aware that they are doing so. It's kind of like those crazy fish tales where they hook a freshwater bass x pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 My bro measured and the one he saw across from my house was 8 feet tall, maybe a little bit taller as it was looking at him through the branches of a tree. But he didn't want to exagerate so he undercut his estimation. Amber colored eyes and tan hair and very loud! Don't have a weight estimate but others have seen similar hairy people that size so you can check reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salubrious Posted April 3, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 3, 2013 ^I do really like that report, and I have no reason to believe any part of it is anything but accurate. Except the size estimate of the creatures. Well I'm six feet tall, and with that truck that meant I could look through the middle of the driver side window when I was standing beside the truck as it had some lift on it.Since the creature was seated on the same surface as my truck, and since I got so close to it to go around it, my estimate of it being 10 feet tall on account of it being 6 feet when seated seems conservative, given that the passenger side is about the same height as the driver side of the truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Liger and mules are both good examples of how the product of two different species can be larger than the parent species. What is interesting about Ligers, is that it is only the females that are fertile (and not always it seems). From wikipedia "The fertility of hybrid big cat females is well documented across a number of different hybrids. This is in accordance with Haldane's rule: in hybrids of animals whose sex is determined by sex chromosomes, if one sex is absent, rare or sterile, it is the heterogametic sex (the one with two different sex chromosomes e.g. X and Y)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Liger and mules are both good examples of how the product of two different species can be larger than the parent species. What is interesting about Ligers, is that it is only the females that are fertile (and not always it seems). From wikipedia "The fertility of hybrid big cat females is well documented across a number of different hybrids. This is in accordance with Haldane's rule: in hybrids of animals whose sex is determined by sex chromosomes, if one sex is absent, rare or sterile, it is the heterogametic sex (the one with two different sex chromosomes e.g. X and Y)." Indeed, it's one of the reasons why I believe that interbreeding with humans probably never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) ^^^To me half-human is a borderline-paranormal "conclusion," which can't be supported with just a DNA string. Patty - which I think is a bigfoot if I had to bet - didn't breed with anybody in my species, nor did she come from such a coupling. Count on that. Edited April 3, 2013 by DWA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Height? My brother said near 8 feet, however, he/she was hunched over somewhat so he underestimated. A friend's son came face to face with one as he turned the corner of his Mom's house and there it was. I saw the porch steps and estimated to where her son saw the top of his head touching the roof of the porch. We agreed probably 11 feet tall at least. One was seen on a front porch and her/his head was nearly touching the ceiling of the front porch. It was at least 7, maybe 8 feet tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JiggyPotamus Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I think this is a good question. I had something similar in mind when commenting on the Ketchum "data." I could not locate any potential genus or species around at the appropriate time that would produce such an animal as sasquatch. I do not know all that much about genetics either though. Someone who does may be able to comment on whether a new species resulting from cross-breeding could possibly exhibit dormant or recessive height characteristics that are not shared by either of the breeding pair. That would be my best guess, but as I said, I do not know if this is possible. I know it can happen within the same species, explaining why two short people can produce very tall offspring, or something like that. But we do know that there were similar animals, now extinct, who were just as tall, if not taller, than modern sasquatch. This seems more likely to have something to do with modern sasquatch and their height, just from a common sense point of view, but common sense goes out the window sometimes when dealing with highly technical or specialized subjects...genetics being one of them in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I think if Squatches are hybrids, to still be around and as widespread as they are said to be, we'd have to still be hybridizing with them today. Which would mean we have an unknown primate running aroumd away. As for hybridizing... any volunteers? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 If the reports of 9' bigfoots are true, and not due to exaggeration or the memory process under fear - then what explains the large amount of sightings of 6' animals. In humans, average height is quite average (for the most part) by comparison and there is not such a wide range in differences due to sex. However, male gorillas weigh about twice what female gorillas do. And interesting, Mountain gorillas show even more size difference between the sexes. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9294638 "Finally, data demonstrate lowland and mountain gorilla females do not differ significantly in adult body size, but mountain gorilla males are significantly larger than lowland gorilla males, suggesting mountain gorillas are characterized by a higher degree of sexual dimorphism in body size." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Not only sexual dimorphism, but gigantism could be in play here. These animals could just exhibit those more than humans, who of course have generated individuals over nine feet in height (much bigger compared to our average than to that for sasquatch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 If there are indeed specimen in the 10-15ft range...I think this brings a lot of things into question concerning BF being just another biological entity. I'm going to start a thread asking for some "out the box" thinking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 If there are indeed specimen in the 10-15ft range...I think this brings a lot of things into question concerning BF being just another biological entity. I'm going to start a thread asking for some "out the box" thinking... I agree. 10-15 feet makes a lot of sense if you think Bigfoot is something supernatural, but if you believe it's a flesh-and-blood animal governed by the same laws of biology as every other species in the universe, IMO, it makes almost no sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the parkie Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Not only sexual dimorphism, but gigantism could be in play here. These animals could just exhibit those more than humans, who of course have generated individuals over nine feet in height (much bigger compared to our average than to that for sasquatch). What humans have been recorded at more than nine feet tall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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