hiflier Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Hello All, I'll be my own devil's advocate here as thinking from all angles helps keep things objective for the most part: Does anyone think that two Sasquatch can carry, drag, or otherwise transport a wounded/dead SSQ who weight is say in the vicinity of 500-600 lbs? And then where to? Or how far? How far or for how long could any of you carry or drag a Human weighing in at only 100 lbs? And over what kind of terrain? Edited October 6, 2013 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernyahoo Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 It's the one next to Arch Stanton. No quote from that one escapes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dog Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Question, does any animal, other than man, bury their dead? Why are we attributing the level of sophistication to bury their dead to a creature that has no know use of tools? The most extreme instance that I have seen reported for their use of an object is to knock rocks and trees together to make noise. Please correct my interpretation if this is wrong. I'm just wondering how we can attribute this singular action to a group of creatures that shows no other signs of culture at this level? Don't take this as trolling, I'm trying to get a handle on this whole BF bury their dead concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 why? to explain the problem of never finding a body or bones, which is one of my big issues you ask a very good question and I'm not sure all would be happy with the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted October 6, 2013 Admin Share Posted October 6, 2013 I'd think an intelligent creature would take it's fallen with them as soon as possible. Which, would make work like what NAWAC and Norseman are attempting even harder. What does Justin Smeja "think" happen to the one he shot? We would never leave a man behind, would we? I totally agreed with Cliff B when he said something along the lines of, "If you think that this creature is any less intelligent than you are, you're sadly mistaken". Have you ever watched the wild geese? But I do think its common for humans to bury loved ones. But strangers or enemies of our own species? Not so much. We also exhibit cannibalism with our species and in the past..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Hello Old Dog, Question, does any animal, other than man, bury their dead? Why are we attributing the level of sophistication to bury their dead to a creature that has no know use of tools? The most extreme instance that I have seen reported for their use of an object is to knock rocks and trees together to make noise. Please correct my interpretation if this is wrong. I'm just wondering how we can attribute this singular action to a group of creatures that shows no other signs of culture at this level? Don't take this as trolling, I'm trying to get a handle on this whole BF bury their dead concept. In truth, as far as I know, no other animal buries it's dead. But the real point here is not to say that Sasquatch uses tools at all even if they DO bury their dead. That's why I posted the talus beds in the OP and described the double dig method. Tossing a deceased animal into a hole in a pile of rocks and excavating an adjacent hole by throwing the rocks into the first one was the idea. So, no tools required which does keep the level of sophistication at a minimum, or at least unnecessary. But then it still leaves that other truly nagging question should SSQ exists: WHY would they do such a thing? I'm also attempting to generate the idea of the "family" burial plot. Edited October 6, 2013 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Hello All, OK here's where the whole thing stems from: When I first saw the blog in the OP the point that was made was that the witness saw the SSQ digging the rock holes to get rats. I got to thinking that rats would be much quicker than a SSQ and therefore the whole exercise to me would be futile. Why were the rats there in the first place? If SSQ was somehow successful in getting the rats it leaves several thoughts. One, the rats were simply happenstance. Two, the rats were feeding on decaying SSQ cadavers. Three, The SSQ went after the rats because 1)they were still protecting the dead and 2) they knew from experience that rats congregate around the dead bodies and therefore are easy prey for the living in which to feed on. To me it would be an end result of an intelligent creature. The most skeptical approach would be that the rats were there through happenstance. Even so, that would be an unfrozen area for a winter food supply. Edited October 6, 2013 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 If the tunnels are finite, you just have to dig faster than a rat can dig, you'll get it eventually..... yes they'll be quicker down the pre-dug tunnels, but when you've blocked them or dug them out, they're trapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Hello Flashman2.0, We haven't exchanged ideas much, my oversight. Yes, LOL, some fast digging would help, YA THINK? The first photo in the blog makes it appear that the talus bed, or slide, is fairly deep , at least in that spot. IF it is a burial area there would really only be one way to find out now wouldn't there be? And that would be to GO THERE. Or contact the gentleman in the blog and open the discussion and see if some excavative investigation could be considered. Part of bring an idea to the table should be bringing suggestions for resolving the idea as well. Anyone in that area feel like taking the ball on this, or should I run with it by contacting the person myself? The sooner the better as winter is just around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TexasTracker Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Norse.... what about geese?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The side issue to this is general Squatch intelligence, which there seems to be little discussion on. Obviously they want to stay hidden, so obviously they bury their dead, or elsewise, unless one dies and no one of them knows about it. Then again, powers that be are willing accomplices to cover up anything on Squatches also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Hello WAG, If one of them dies alone I would venture that it wouldn't be long before it was missed from the group. If SSQ noses are keen then I would also say that it wouldn't be long before the smell would lead them to the body. Bears seem to find carcasses to eat but whether or not bears find the deceased Squatch before the other Squatch do is a matter of conjecture. The conjecture going back to the discussion of whether or not both species of animal are in the same area at the same time or one dominates an area at the expense of sending the other packing. Edited October 6, 2013 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted October 6, 2013 Admin Share Posted October 6, 2013 Norse.... what about geese?? It's a movie about mercs......and they shoot their badly wounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The side issue to this is general Squatch intelligence, which there seems to be little discussion on. Obviously they want to stay hidden, so obviously they bury their dead, or elsewise, unless one dies and no one of them knows about it. Then again, powers that be are willing accomplices to cover up anything on Squatches also. they do some real funny things if it's true they want to stay hidden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted October 7, 2013 Admin Share Posted October 7, 2013 mbh- Do they really do funny things or do people just report funny things? I realize that skeptics like to lump all reports together to erode the validity of the whole subject. But logic tells us two things............either they do not exist or they are very rare. They cannot be rummaging the KFC dumpster on a weekly basis, and remain hidden. I concur with that observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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