Guest Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I know allot of you have spent years looking for this creature, and the idea of two guys coming over from Ireland for a week hoping to find him seems ridiculous. To be honest we're not expecting to find anything, but we just wanna give our selves the absolute best shot. So my question is, where do you think would give us the best shot of seeing one of these things. Even if we only slash our odds from a trillion to one to a million to one. Thanks for any ideas guys. Oh and dont just say Washington, the more specific the better, cheers!
Hammer102492 Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Without question, Mohican State Park, Ohio and Salt Fork State Park, Ohio. Both are within a little over an hour from each other. Take a canoe trip down the Lake Fork Branch of the Mohican River. That livery is only out of Toodik campgrounds. It's totally remote, and runs right through a recent "flap" area this past summer. You have to have a heavy rain a few days before in order not to portage and get stuck on rocks. Also, the Loudonville Canoe Livery has a night time canoe trip once a summer. Camp anywhere down Wally Road on the river near Mohican State Park. You could canoe the regular part of the river with all the tourists, but that gets a little crazy to say the least. Try the Lake Fork Branch out of Toodik campgrounds to canoe. Camping at the Mohican State Park is really great though. Peaceful and totally squatchy. It is surrounded by the Mohican State Forest with lots of land and numerous sightiings. Salt Fork is known to be very active, especially on the upper ridge. A cheap vacation and very fun and beautiful! That's my two cents.
Terry Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Go to Bluff Creek. Lots of bf history and the townsfolk no doubt have stories and will give you some leads. It's where it all began, kinda, and it will make for a great trip. Have fun! t.
Old Dog Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Gifford Pinchot National Forest or the Olympics in Washington. Show up on Whidbey Island an I'll buy you a pint of "Irish Death". Heck, I'll buy a pitcher . Sláinte Edited January 2, 2014 by Old Dog
Guest Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Contact Brenda Harris down in New Mexico, she has been on alot of Blogtalk shows. I'm sure she would love to have you and might put you up for a week or so. Beware, there is more that goes on around Indian sites than BF. Shapeshifters and the like.
BobbyO Posted January 2, 2014 SSR Team Posted January 2, 2014 No public sightings in or around the Bluff Creek part of NorCal for years now. If you're going to WA, it all depends what time of year. If you tell the time of year and be as specific as possible, i can narrow it down REALLY well to where you've got the best chance of getting some activity, without a doubt..
BobbyO Posted January 2, 2014 SSR Team Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Of course, you can also ask the Guys and Girls at Squatchermetrics too, i'm sure they'll be glad to help. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Squatchermetrics-The-PNW-Sasquatch/487563514632150?ref=ts&fref=ts and this https://twitter.com/SquatcherMetrix Also, i just remembered, check out the " Calculating The Probability Of Having A Bf Sighting " thread in the " In the field, applied scientific......" section as i get the feeling you'll appreciate it. From page 3 i think it is, talk starts drifting towards narrowing down areas and i can tell you that since then, on the database we use, we've got over 500 sightings for WA State only, 100 plus for the Olympic Peninsula, same for the South Cascades and the North Cascades so we can reduce your chances, for sure. Edited January 2, 2014 by BobbyO
Guest DWA Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Without question, Mohican State Park, Ohio and Salt Fork State Park, Ohio. Both are within a little over an hour from each other. Take a canoe trip down the Lake Fork Branch of the Mohican River. That livery is only out of Toodik campgrounds. It's totally remote, and runs right through a recent "flap" area this past summer. You have to have a heavy rain a few days before in order not to portage and get stuck on rocks. Also, the Loudonville Canoe Livery has a night time canoe trip once a summer. Camp anywhere down Wally Road on the river near Mohican State Park. You could canoe the regular part of the river with all the tourists, but that gets a little crazy to say the least. Try the Lake Fork Branch out of Toodik campgrounds to canoe. Camping at the Mohican State Park is really great though. Peaceful and totally squatchy. It is surrounded by the Mohican State Forest with lots of land and numerous sightiings. Salt Fork is known to be very active, especially on the upper ridge. A cheap vacation and very fun and beautiful! That's my two cents. Cool, Hammer. (Yes. Ohio's a hot spot, and John Bindernagel thinks it beats the PNW for habitat.) "Scarlet Begonias" is one of my Dead favorites. Just had to toss that in. I should add that Irishmen are somewhat partial to Pointless Journeys, since Brendan at least. But sometimes we toss a Bono in there, so don't let probability theory scare you!
BobbyO Posted January 2, 2014 SSR Team Posted January 2, 2014 (Yes. Ohio's a hot spot, and John Bindernagel thinks it beats the PNW for habitat.) ! No disrespect to Mr B, but he's talking out of his bottom on that one. Ohio's beautiful, but to say it beats the PNW where habitat is concerned is nonsensical.
Guest DWA Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) I should add in addition to Hammer's spot-on suggestions the Cuyahoga National Park. Habitat as good as there is and numerous sightings. No disrespect to Mr B, but he's talking out of his bottom on that one. Ohio's beautiful, but to say it beats the PNW where habitat is concerned is nonsensical. Not really. The PNW is mainly coniferous forest, which simply doesn't yield the vegetable caloric content that a large omnivore needs. People tend to think that "few people" is the main criterion for excellent habitat. Bear, turkey and deer populations - together constituting almost 100% overlap with theorized sasquatch diet, never mind being part of the diet themselves - contest this majorly. If one only has a week, OH may actually be the best bet in the Union. One reason only suffices: more of it is easier to get to than any other hot-spot state. Edited January 2, 2014 by DWA
Guest Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I would check out the ocean front area of Grays Harbor Washington. There are a lots of reports from there from one end of the county to the other,including the Brown family OP video site. The area appears conducive to tourists, you wont need to rent a lot of gear unless you want to,and if reports are indication the creatures reside close to the built up area too. And it looks really beautiful in pictures and on google earth too. That.s where I would go.And there are guide services in the area too. So there you would have alot of options, with the added bonus of having as much chance seeing something when you are arriving back at your hotel or condo as when you are out and about in the more wilderness areas. Here is the bfro link to Grays Harbor County Washington. http://bfro.net/GDB/show_county_reports.asp?state=wa&county=Grays+Harbor
Guest DWA Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Again presuming that squatching (and not scenery) is what you are coming for, comparisons of sighting reports from the BFRO database: Washington - 571 California - 427 Florida - 266 Illinois - 245 [indiana - 74] Ohio - 239 Oregon - 234 Texas - 199 It's significant that the west coast states are "the birthplace of Bigfoot," at least as a national media phenomenon; have Native cultures, in which sasquatch figures prominently, which are significantly more intact than those in the Midwest and Eastern states; and could be easily seen to have a more sasquatch-friendly culture which must at least somewhat account for the greater number of reported sightings. Not sure how to account for Indiana, smack between IL and OH. I'd have to look at a map. But it is similar in habitats. And a look at the US shows that 74 is a lot of sightings...more by a lot, in fact, than AK, which shares much culturally as well as biologically with the PNW. Of course, many more AK accounts (as with other states) exist than just those on the BFRO database. Edited January 2, 2014 by DWA
BobbyO Posted January 2, 2014 SSR Team Posted January 2, 2014 I disagree strongly. The Tongass NF alone has nearly three times as much forested acres than Ohio, it is incredibly rich in everything an animal that is 7ft plus and an omnivore needs. Look at this place - http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2007/07/tongass/chadwick-text 75k people live in that forest, that's it. I really don't think you or anyone can say Ohio is a better habitat that the PNW for this animal.
bigbear Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 What time of year would you be looking to do this? After answering that, what kind of climate/temps are you comfortable with? Another thing maybe to consider is your level of physical fitness and hiking ability?. My thoughts, I think Hammer and DWA have good points. Ohio I think will just be easier for someone to get into the "thick" of things. OH is significantly smaller and less vast than the PNW but boasts a lot of sightings. You won't have to worry about grizzly bears, or cougars in OH. There are more species of venomous snakes in OH but should be non issue. It can get cold in OH during the winter but summers are comfortable for most people. I could never do Texas or anywhere South in the summer, I would melt. OH gets some snow but generally not several feet in a short time span like one might encounter in the hills of PNW if you are considering a winter months trip. Not sure how much rain OH gets but probably less than PNW? IDK. Hiking will be easier in OH,as well it is fairly flat last I remember so you won't have to climb any mountains which is a plus if you are not in the best of shape. Just some things to consider. So in short, I think OH will just be easier all around but still give you a great experience with less risk and probably cheaper to. I would like to do a week in middle of nowhere WV sooner or later, time will tell.
BobbyO Posted January 2, 2014 SSR Team Posted January 2, 2014 If one only has a week, OH may actually be the best bet in the Union. One reason only suffices: more of it is easier to get to than any other hot-spot state. This may be true however given that you can really narrow things down too. But I believe you can do that all across the country including the PNW too anyway.
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