Guest DWA Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I would think anatomy would prohibit a bipedal animal from travelling on all fours very well although I'm not up on that sort of thing. If you look at the apes, they can travel well on all fours but aren't fluid walking on two. Can an animal be built in such a way as to do both well I wonder? t. I wonder too. I also wonder how much we are blinkered by what we *know.* Gorillas and chimps are much better on two feet than people tend to think. I bet a minimal amount of biotinkering would be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChasingRabbits Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 So I guess my question is, if Coonbo's bigfoot can run on all fours at 35 mph and we hear the many cases of bigfoot that travel just about as fast on two legs...is that anotomically possible? Wouldn't the bone/muscle structure in their hips and knees have to be completely different from any other known animal to accomplish that? I can't think of any other animal that can do both equally well. t. If that bipedal has a Homo sapien anatomy, it will be difficult to ambulate on all fours. But does BF has Homo sapien anatomy: same bone structure in terms of bone length, muscle attachments, joint attachment/placement, and even muscles? OR does BF's anatomy allow for bipedal and quadripedal ambulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coonbo Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Three or four years ago, my middle brother was on the tractor, bush-hogging around the perimeter of the hay fields on the back of our farm at about 4:00pm. The field he was in is separated from the hay field to the west by a thick wooded hedgerow. As he came to a wide gap in the hedgerow at the NW corner of the field, he saw what he thought was our BIG Angus bull standing in the field to the west, facing away from him. He wondered what the bull was doing back there and turned into that field, presumably to herd him back to the pasture he was supposed to be in. As he approached on the tractor, the "bull" started to raise up in the front, and my brother thought he was mounting a cow. But he raised all the way up and turned to its right and my brother suddenly realized that he was looking at the Alpha of the BF troop that lives in the area of our farm. He gave my brother a quick side-ways glance and then casually walked off bipedally down into a wooded hollow to the north. He had been on all fours when my brother first saw him. This Alpha is a Type 1 and he is massive. About 10 ft tall, leaves 21 to 22 inch tracks on the exceedingly rare occasion that you can find one, and I think he could weigh 1000+ pounds. But I cannot imagine him running quadrupedally at the speeds that I've seen the Type 2's run, such as the sighting I reported above. Maybe the really big guys can do it too, I don't know, but it would sure be impressive to see. A couple of things about their quadrupedal travel that I'm positive about: When they assume the quadrupedal stance, their heels come up off the ground and only the balls and toes of their feet are on the ground. This could explain the purpose and use of the purported mid-tarsal break (or joint). Also, when in that stance, their knees are bent. They are NOT flat-footed and straight-legged when traveling quadrupedally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) I'd say that the animal in the P/G film wouldn't be too too bad at either. General traits include arms considerably longer than legs; complaint gait (a bennie when one goes down on all fours as the knee doesn't generally lock); and hands the prints of which imply that knuckle-walking may be practiced. Coonbo also notes the midtarsal break, another assist. Cool story, Coonbo, and yet another on the huge heap putting the lie to "they're so secretive that no one sees them" that people somehow think *has to apply* (then how are we even knowing about them at all, hmmmmm?) They're *animals*, and they, like others, get caught out sometimes, and like others, have different individual reactions to that. Edited January 9, 2015 by DWA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Bf anatomy is different from humans. Our arms are not as long as our legs are, the BF has longer arms matching pretty closely the legs length and thus can ambulate faster on all 4's than we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Coonbo, is your recollection of the events you note as to the type 2 and quad walking documented further somewhere I can read the account? Or if it isn't could you tell me what the type two was like, and wherebouts your encounter was if that is something you care to divulge? You probably have already posted a link I am not aware of, if so, please accept my apologies for being out of the loop and unaware of it. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coonbo Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The mechanics of BF moving quadrupedally are grossly different from that of the Turkish family in the links above. The primary notable differences of the BF are: The heels of the feet are off the ground, and possibly also there this a mid-tarsal break that assists the ball and toes to stay more flat on the ground. My belief is that this break could be anatomically accomplished quite easily by slight modifications of the proportions of some of the foot bones. The legs are bent at the knees, thereby lowering the rear end and helping to proportionally raise their front-end when quadrupedal. This puts the joints, especially the hip joints, into a better position to accommodate quadrupedal running. Many, many sighting reports also note that the knees are often (or usually) bent even when bipedal, lending further veracity to this belief. The arms are proportionally longer than humans, thereby also helping to raise their front-end when quadrupedal. BF knuckle walk when quadrupedal, further raising their front end, The head is in a more natural position when quadrupedal, primarily due to the back being level. It is very similar to the position of our heads when we are on our hands and knees. The natural position of BF's eyes are not biased towards looking upwards, as the Turkish family's are. There might be some extra natural articulation in the BF's neck joints in the vertical direction to better accommodate natural quadrupedal travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coonbo Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 People Booger: The sighting report of the BF on the powerline right-of-way is here: http://www.gcbro.com/ALcolbert002.html . Hope this answers your questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JiggyPotamus Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 There are most definitely such reports. There are even videos depicting sasquatch moving in a quadrupedal fashion. I still remember one of these videos, where the animal moved so quickly on all fours, and I'm not sure a human in a suit could do that. It was the video where the animal goes from bipedal to quadrupedal, all in one fluid motion. Great video. From New York state I think, but I might be wrong on that one. It's been a while since I've watched it, but I remember I was impressed. Probably would have to be one of my favorite strictly because of the movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-40 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Thanks for all the replies. I don't know if I have ever seen a video or picture of the big guy on all fours that most people believe is not a hoax or CGI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasfooty Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 That's probably because "most people" believe that about all BF pictures & video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaw Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Tim, that was your brother's sighting I was referring to in my post. Hope your health is doing better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Coonbo, Your grandfather's words are similar to what an old farmer told me one day. He came by, said "Hi" and pointed to my 5 year old and said "There are catamounts around and better keep an eye on him,, he's a dandy." I accepted the warning (not knowing what the heck a "catamount" was.............. And because of the horrendous noises coming from across the road (game preserve) I always watched my child when he was outside. My brothers would go in those woods but I could not muster the courage to go in there alone..................which resulted in a sighting by the younger one from my front yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodslore Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Little off topic but when did Catamount become a word for Sasquatch. I grew up hearing it as another word for Cougar, Mountain lion, Puma that sort of thing. Seen that term used for Sasquatch a few times on the forums now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Bf anatomy is different from humans. Our arms are not as long as our legs are, the BF has longer arms matching pretty closely the legs length and thus can ambulate faster on all 4's than we can. Does Patty really have longer arms and shorter legs? Seems arm swing is about human level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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