the parkie Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 If I had not received phone calls from hysterical people who actually encountered the weirdest type of BF, the canine type, and each had a horrific story to tell me about their encounter, I would not have believed in this type either. Er...I thought you maintained that you had seen one?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I certainly don't have a degree in biology, this is pure speculation and I would hope to be corrected if I am wrong...but it would seem to me the first place to look for evidence of this would be in the rest of the natural world. We could limit the investigation to mammals and probably the great ape family. In those groups how many documented cases of actual crossbreeding do we have? I am defining crossbreeding as the actual mating of one species with another, not just DNA markers that are shared by multiple critters but the actual "event" A breeds with B and yields AB. If we can state that this the frequency that this is happening, or it has happened in the natural world without the interference of humans... then we can come up with a probability. I know the story of the mule, and I would say this is one...but how many others are there? And once completed is the product always incapable of reproducing? (The mule story again) It is a big reach and lots of speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodslore Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Northfork You make a good point.In nature there are actually a number of cases where two animals of different species have mated without human interference and produced reproductive offspring. Though for everyone we know of how many do we not? I know a dangerous thought to have as it is speculative in nature. Though we do have cross breeding in nature that has been proven, or thought to exist.Polar bears and grizzlies. A few years ago one was shot and was noted to be a second generation cross. It's mother (if not mistaken) was also a cross Wolves and dogs. Coyotes and dogs To really complicate things there has been one "dog" noted as being of Coyote+Wolf+Dog breeding. Thus one parent was a mix. The eastern Coyotes (at least in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia) have been noted and proven in many cases to be a mix of wolf and coyote with the offspring able to reproduce. False killer whales and bottle nosed dolphins crosses have been reported to exist in the wild. In the case of apes the only one I can think of off hand is a cross between a Bonobo and a Chimp. Both are members of the same family. Yet separate species. this crossing was in captivity only (though theorized possible in nature). That was in France 1979 I believe.Thus the idea of, if indeed real, various types of Sasquatch breeding with one another could be possible. Though the idea of Sasquatch breeding with a horse, dog, cat, goat, etc is not something I see as possible. Edited January 23, 2015 by Woodslore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catmandoo Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Again people : Maternal Mortality. Size matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Er...I thought you maintained that you had seen one?! I Think saw one with a BFbody, but a wolf head..and by canine type i think she means the ones with a break near the ankle like a dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIB Posted January 24, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 24, 2015 Northfork You make a good point. In nature there are actually a number of cases where two animals of different species have mated without human interference and produced reproductive offspring. Right, but what do those species have in common? They are already very closely related. It's not precisely a convergence, it's a RE-convergence, close relatives with a common ancestor. For this to happen with sasquatch / dog-man, if dog-man really is canine rather than merely appearing so, sasquatch would either have to also be near canine OR Melba's "stuff" about "angel DNA" would have to carry more weight than I think it is worth. IMHO this kind of cross could only happen via deliberate gene spicing under laboratory conditions. We haven't had the ability very long so that points towards ETs with advanced technology. These are sort of concentric rabbit holes, one right down the middle of the other, and you can't traverse one without traversing both. MIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 my head hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 mine too, lol. ..... sort of get the mental pic of a big ol' lonely BF pouring dog chow out in front of a rock then hiding , waiting, hoping.....thinking just maybe, tonight's the night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faenor Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 There's an interesting scenario in biology coined ring species. Where species A can breed with species B and species B can breed with species C. But A cant breed with C. It has been observed in bird populations around the arctic circle. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Hybrids like mules (horse + donkey), tigons (tiger + lion), and liger (lion + tiger) are generally sterile. So if the various types to cross breed, they must do so frequently to keep the hybrid population numbers up----unless their hybrids are capable of reproducing. However, a lot of bear hybrids seem to be fertile, even between large and small species, so I guess it depends how close they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodslore Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 MIB yes "dog-man' is different but what of the other types people mention? They both seem very similar in comparison. So perhaps Dogman can't interbreed. Maybe it is a deformity if it is indeed real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 It's not like a dog mating with a cat or a horse with a cow. How about a hippo with an elephant? We're talking dog with dog cat with cat and primate with primate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I had a theory for some types of "dogman" looking BFs... http://bigfootforums.com/index.php/topic/42033-snouted-bigfoot-why-appearance-of-snout-in-a-population-of-hominims-might-be-likely/ Given that that could happen to "Patty type", "Southern booger" or "neanderthal type" it would lead to some variations in reports on those. The true dogman with long snout, high up doggy ears, and walking on toes, has to be something different though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catmandoo Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Flashman2.0 You use the term "southern booger". Have you researched southern booger and skunk ape? I am far away from Florida but I have wondered if there is any connection to escaped circus animals? Ringling Bros. & Barnum and Bailey over wintered their circus at Sarasota Florida starting in 1929. BTW, what do you flash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Critters tend to breed with what's available. In the canine world especially. I suppose in the world of human-types, it is probably true also. But, as a guy, a gal with a snout would probably be a deal-breaker. I quoted the post that made me laugh out loud. Wishing I had saved some of my votes to "up" the post, this one is definitely a winner. Dogpeople......seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts