Guest DWA Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Well, we're in another fringie argument. dmaker: can't be 100% sure they're right? You conclude they're all wrong. Oh. OK.
Guest Grifter9931 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 We have the same statistical data for elk hunting season and hunter success rate per game management unit. Total Population, density, tags sold and hunter success rate. Typically it's 10-20 % , which means statistically every 5-10 years of hunting the same area a hunter should logically expect to harvest an elk right? Wrong. Generally speaking it's always the same small percentage of hunters that kill elk annually. If your doing it wrong? Your doing it wrong......and playing the odds doesn't mean squat. If you stink, are noisy, cannot track and cannot identify prime habitat, then your going home empty handed. And this is species specific, you may be a great prairie dog hunter but know nothing about elk or cougar. Each species has its own challenges..... Wowzers!!!!! I didn't know they tracked success rate by hunter.... Interesting, is that for all states Odin or just yours?
norseman Posted January 9, 2014 Admin Posted January 9, 2014 If your state makes you do a harvest report? Bingo. How much odor or noise does a trail cam give off? Your serious? Have you ever hunted in your life? 1
Guest Urkelbot Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Is there a significant number of elk kills that can't be accounted for each year? After calculating natural deaths, kills from predator populations, and hunting are there missing elk or deer. Many on this forum claim Bigfoot can run down and kill elk and deer at their leisure. If Bigfoot populations are indeed robust as reports, and unreported sightings, indicate and bigfoot does infact does hunt large game a significant number of elk and deer should be missing each year.
Guest Grifter9931 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 If BF is hunting elk and deer, would they also be killing the pack animals that hunt them as well??? Some farmers , cattlemen are reporting a very large increase in wolves, mountain lions etc Wouldn't BF cull these packs in order to compete with less predators??? Also just a curious question. Can a BF take on an entire wolf pack?? About 20 or so animals??
Guest LarryP Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Honestly, Larry what is your point? I said when watching footage that I don't doubt the authenticity of the animals in the footage as I believe I can tell between a fake and a real animal. You exictedely proclaimed after Kitkaze posted photos of an alleged Groundhog supposedly taken by a trail camera were definitely "real", as ooposed to a "fake". So, where is your proof of that positive claim, dmaker? It's not a complicated question, as much as you'd like to (now) pretend that it is. Just playing by your rules and awaiting your proof. Edited January 9, 2014 by LarryP
dmaker Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) They look real to me Larry. Just like when I look at Patty, it looks fake. That's all I've ever said Larry. When I look at something, like anyone does, I make a judgement call of whether it looks fake or not. When I look at Patty, my perception tells me fake. When I look at, for example, the groundhog pics posted by kit, they look real to me. Do I have proof that they are real? Of course not, don't be absurd. Do you imagine that I have proof at hand for every photograph in the world? Honestly Larry, you pick the oddest things to quibble over sometimes. If you're suspicious of kits groundhog pics, go pester him for proof. Though what in the world that has to do with this thread is really beyond me. Edited January 9, 2014 by dmaker
Guest Grifter9931 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 The "leap" being, if you can't tell the difference between a real groundhog and a fake one, how can you tell the difference between a fake BF and a real BF etc.... derp derp!!
Guest LarryP Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 They look real to me Larry. Just like when I look at Patty, it looks fake. That's all I've ever said Larry. No, that's far less than you've "ever said", dmaker. Nonetheless, you've made a positive claim. So where's your proof? Maybe Jerrymanderer can help you?
Guest Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) So funny coming from a guy that states that he knows for sure that bigfoot know about cameras. Edited January 9, 2014 by Jerrymanderer
norseman Posted January 9, 2014 Admin Posted January 9, 2014 Is there a significant number of elk kills that can't be accounted for each year? After calculating natural deaths, kills from predator populations, and hunting are there missing elk or deer. Many on this forum claim Bigfoot can run down and kill elk and deer at their leisure. If Bigfoot populations are indeed robust as reports, and unreported sightings, indicate and bigfoot does infact does hunt large game a significant number of elk and deer should be missing each year. Just recently visited the john mynenski (chk spelling) thread. As a biologist he addressed that very issue. Claims that Bigfoot kills were always a broken neck. As far as statistical data? If it's being tallied as a bear kill or cougar kill whatever Bigfoot isn't getting the credit. And I think a lot of states don't even go that far....... It would simply be chalked up as predation.
norseman Posted January 9, 2014 Admin Posted January 9, 2014 So funny coming from a guy that states that he knows for sure that bigfoot know about cameras. Why is that so hard to believe? My neighbor had a bear crawl through the side of his pickup canopy to get to a pizza box......no pizza. A cabin was broken into by a bear and he proceeded to eat all of the canned food but one lone can that wasn't touched. What was in the can? sauerkraut. That's why bears are so easy to bait, they are a slave to their nose, and human scent while present is ignored because the jelly donuts are so irresistible..... It's like putting a banana split in front of a fat kid in the middle of a busy highway......he won't even notice the cars. Although I have observed them being cautious of other bears. But when it comes to smell they are freaks Anyhow, while purely conjecture on my part, if Sasquatch is avoiding camera traps? It probably has a lot to do with a long history of aversion to humans as well as a careless researcher eating Cheetos before handling the camera . As oppose to squatch reading your mind or understanding the complex infrared trigger sensor on your camera . One thing that has bugged me for a long time is my dog. If I drive to town she never follows, if a drive to the other side of the ranch in the same direction to my moms house ? She always follows!!!! How? I don't think she is reading my mind of course, but she is obvious picking up on something subtle that iam oblivious to.
Guest Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Norse, Larry stated that sasquatch know about actual picture taking.
norseman Posted January 9, 2014 Admin Posted January 9, 2014 ^^^^^^^^ Yah well, did they read the manual or something.......:0
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