Sasquatch Vs Bear

[Guest DWA]

Oh, I think the parties are doing the assessment up front.  Unless it's starving, nothing's taking on something that could badly hurt it.

[norseman]

Very true.

[wiiawiwb]

I'd bet the farm on a sasquatch. Speed, strength, and cunning. He could rip down an 9" oak branch, out maneuver the brown/grizzly bear and that oak branch would come down on the brown bear's head with the force of a freight train. Lights out grizzy!

[SWWASAS]

The key to this discussion is that a BF has the intelligence to pick its battles. Bears operate more on a territorial fight or flight with little thought more than sizing up an adversary. The fact that bears attack each other, males eat their young, tell a lot about their muddled and mostly irrational behavior. I would think a BF would be very aware of how dangerous the large bears are but if attacked by a charging bear would do what an armed human does, defend itself in a fight to the death.

[Guest DWA]

Actually bear behavior is finely honed by evolution, and persists for the best reason...it works.  Bears, I think, would look at our mindless expansion into every available niche as the irrational practice.  Bears attack each other and eat young for excellent reasons.

 

They're considered possibly smarter than everything but the higher primates.  We have too much a tendency to put ourselves on a pedestal we have done everything to show we don't deserve...and not give the amazing survival strategies of other species near enough credit.  They've been here a lot longer than us.  For a reason.

[FarArcher]

Aye, bear characteristics may be he result of evolution, but each bear himself becomes personally attuned to his environment through an enhanced sense of smell and to a degree a fair vision capability.

 

Any large bipedal likewise living in the wild would also become personally attuned to his environment - but with possibly differing concentrations/capabilities of their sense of smell.  Or vision.  Or hearing.  They too, would be very capable of detecting most approaching predators and prey alike.

 

The real difference I believe, is their probably ability to think, reason, and more effectively communicate with others of their kind.  Those abilities would make them very successful at avoiding the humans - who many they discover in forest, swamps, and mountains, they realize humans are themselves predators, and are considered as such. 

 

The ultimate guerrilla.

[guyzonthropus]

I wouldnt discount the intelligence of The large bears....i would imagine it was more than dumb luck that brought them through the extinction of the mega-fauna to become an apex( or maybe next to apex)predator in their environment.

As for the natural enemies idea, that may prove out to some degree, in that im sure the bears would prey on young saaquatches given the right circumstances, as sasquatch may prey on the young bear cubs, if not older ones as well, either as a food souce or as pre-emptive elimination. Depending on the actual level of cognitive awareness and social action the sasquatch have developed, they may seek out the brown bears in their region to kill so as to better protect their group/interests, just as humans did as europeans expanded west.

The bear i would wonder about is the polar bear...being pretty much strictly carnivorous they have a different mindset than other bears, they have both the means and the attitude to inflict serious effect to most anything they put their bearminds to...and they are very fast and can be quite stealthy... of course, theyre not quite as stable on two feet as sasquatch so that would be a disadvantage, but their endurance is something else...sure would be a pay per view showdown! WWWF dont have nothing on that! Though some might say neither are real.....lol

[Guest JiggyPotamus]

I am trying to picture what such a confrontation would look like. We know a bear is a powerful and fast animal, and that it can use its teeth to devastating effect, complemented by the power it can unleash by throwing around its body weight and by using its front limbs. I can easily imagine that the arm length of a sasquatch would prove highly beneficial in a fight with a bear, granted that a sasquatch was at least equal in strength. I say this because a bear has to get its head, and thus its mouth, right on top of its intended victim. Where humans are concerned this is very easy considering that we do not possess the strength/power necessary to push the animal away. If however a sasquatch does have such strength, which is pretty likely in cases of the larger sasquatch, the bigfoot could at the very least defend itself from a bear attack. I think that the greatest danger would come from the bear biting the hands or arms of the sasquatch as the latter attempted to fight off the former. Perhaps a sasquatch could just grab the bears entire head and give it a lethal twist. Such a tactic is actually supported by eyewitness data, although not with a bear. The only thing I can recall had to do with sasquatch hunting, instead of sasquatch actually fighting a willing opponent. IF bears back away from sasquatch then it is either because bears have learned that they are not the alphas of the forest through lethal contact with sasquatch over a long period of time, or they instinctively realize that sasquatch are large and powerful.

 

However, not all sasquatch seem to be massive, and it would not surprise me if a bear would attack a sasquatch that was of a smaller stature. There is also the question of which animal is faster. It is claimed that sasquatch have been seen running down a deer, and I highly doubt a bear could do that on open ground. Bears are fast, but not that fast. I think the fact that a bear is so fast, which seems counter-intuitive given their size, makes the idea of sasquatch being fast much more plausible. Size, which technically one of the limiting factors of speed, does not instantly mean that a massive animal must be lumbering and slow. I do know this...both bears and sasquatch are faster than we are.

Edited September 21, 2015 by JiggyPotamus

[Guest DWA]

I doubt that the potential damage to both parties is a mystery to either, and will bet that confrontations that come to blows - other than one species making a meal of an obviously-vulnerable member of the other - are few in the extreme.