Bigfoot caloric intake.

[hiflier]

Nor am I LOL but I was able to follow a lot of it. Since the paper was submitted in 2001 and accepted in 2002 years old I would imagine science has looked pretty closely at it and recommendations regarding wildlife habitat management were instituted. It would indeed be an important guideline for all fauna including our own venerable subject.

[hiflier]

I've often toyed with the idea of acting more like a competitive animal when in the field. Primarily doing unusual things like perhaps pretending to do various methods of foraging. Maybe digging into rotted logs, actively sitting in berry patches and picking away at the fruits, breaking off small low branches and creating stick configurations. Bow down a sapling and pinning it to the ground with a log or rock. Digging into talus pretending to search for rodents and doing other things Sasquatch has been known or suspected of doing. In other words acting like a competitor for whatever food supply might be seasonally in a certain area. And all the while keeping a small video camera going.

 

The idea being that it may not appear that I am actively searching for and stalking Bigfoot or any other animal. Paying attention by listening and using peripheral vision by trying to look like I'm more occupied with my "activities" and appear to have my guard down because my attention is more on what I'm doing instead of actually watching. Would a Sasquatch find me curious enough to approach? Or a juvenile? Would I be taking an unnecessary risk in operating this way? I've read many reports of encounters where Humans were similarly "distracted" by their own activities and were approached.

 

And NO! I will NOT wear a "suit"

Edited March 14, 2017 by hiflier

[Twist]

I think this method would achieve results just as well as camping and not acknowledging BF in any form.  My reasoning that BF's curiosity is peaked by us doing what we do.  To them is and our actions are foreign enough that it caused curiosity.  That being said, your approach is as good as any and should most definitely be employed as a new tactic.  Almost anything is worth a try.

Edited March 14, 2017 by Twist

[hiflier]

This idea is more subtly AGGRESSIVE though. It isn't like someone gardening in their own "territory" or camping in known designated "territories". This is being in THEIR territory and appearing passive while being involved in the more aggressive activities of foraging in their own back yards so to speak. Being as competitive as any other Sasquatch or bear would be for that same food supply. It's a different approach on a number of levels. In an animal brain, intrusion on someone's food supply would be viewed as anything but innocent. It would be viewed as competitively moving in on another's claim. And while such a thing may seem harmless to other Humans I would think it would be as anything but harmless to a creature who had "won" foraging rights to an area for itself and it's family. And then in comes this Human- this new competitor for berries, grubs, nuts, and anything else?

[SWWASAS]

Think about what BF have experienced in a few generations.      Native Americans pretty much lived much like they do.    Hunting, gathering roots and edible vegetation, and not having complex weapons.       Then Europeans showed up with fire arms.    That changed the BF human interactions.     Settlers poured in from the East and started to shrink their habitat.    Initially logging areas localized around the settlements but then became industrialized.       Clear cutting started drastically shrinking BF habitat.      Pushing BF further into more remote areas.     Automobiles, trucks,  became road crossing hazards.    

 

I flew over my former research area on Sunday.      I remember what the area was like when I first got into BF research.   Large areas of second growth mature forest then but much has been clear cut now.    There is little or no cover left.    Washington State forests are being aggressively harvested.    The state needs the money to fund it's out of control spending.       Because of the clear cutting, BF has to have been forced into the National Forests to the East.    Logging is much less extensive there,     large areas are untouched, and there is goof cover.      I wonder where the family group I interacted with had to move to.      At least 20 or 30 miles East if not further.      There is little cover until you go that far East now.   

Edited March 14, 2017 by SWWASAS

[hiflier]

According to an article I read yesterday the U.S. annual tree harvest is between 3-6 billion trees a year depending on tree density per square mile. That's not board feet mind you. That's an actual whole-tree estimate.

 

Your post sort of underscores the food competition thing. By extension it may also hint at a lower Sasquatch population.

Edited March 14, 2017 by hiflier

[Twist]

^^. That's a sad thing to hear SWWASAS, not just for BF but all fauna in that area.  We truly are the most destructive force this planet has ever seen.

[norseman]

I checked my numbers against Grok. New tools for us to use.

 

 

[Backdoc]

Calorie intake must be on par with that of a similar size gorilla.  BTW how does Bigfoot trim his toenails ? 

[NathanFooter]

I have not read all the posts up to this point but I think it is difficult to calculate pounds of material because the caloric density per gram can vary greatly.  We also can't measure metabolic rate with Sasquatches necessarily as what you eat at what time can change the rate itself.   In mammals the metabolic rate is effected by sun exposure, temperature, stress and sleep. Sasquatches do not seem to be pot-bellied ( fermentation gut adapted ) and seem to consume a lot of direct protein when compared to gorillas.

 

I would say that they focus on nutrient dense food heavily in the fall and again in the spring, sources heavily would lean toward insects, small critters, nuts, tubers, salmon, ungulates, fruits, lichens, mushrooms and softer plant leaf material. Just a side note, I am very convinced that omegas are likely the most important need to the Sasquatch, big brains demand them and this would explain the continued historic references in native cultures that sasquatch can become fairly confrontational in situations such as pulling salmon nets and invading smoke houses. I have also noted that Sasquatch reports do often happen on a regular basis close to large tracts of masting nut trees.

 

 I suspect they target certain foods at certain times and try to conserve energy, the few long trackways on record seem to indicate very focused directional travel as if they have a point B in mind.  If I had to guess with what little I know from reading, behavior and looking for feeding sites I would say someplace between 7500 to 1000 calories split between 30% fat, 30% carbs, and 40% protein averaged across the year cycle. That is my 2 cents and again I don't have a whole lot of confidence yet in my view here but it is where I am at, critics are welcome.

 

 It would be interesting to see what the metabolic consumption of the Chinese snub nosed monkey is throughout the year as a comparison as they have a wide range diet and endure some fairly cold conditions following the snowline. 

[NathanFooter]

On 9/29/2016 at 7:59 PM, MIB said:

Agreed and plussed.    There should be more snow track reports than there are if the BF population is as large as some claim, at least in the interior west where there is seasonal snow pack even to the lowest elevations.    My experiences from about 2005 on initially seemed to be pointing towards a fall migration towards lower elevations canyons of coastal rivers where there would be no snow but I'm backing away from that conclusion now, simply stuck with "I don't really know."

 

MIB

 

 I would suggest a home range model with a nomadic cycle of following resources completely every 2 to 3 weeks ( obviously deviating enough down from lasting snow ) along box-canyons and or benches that follow streams and smaller river pathways.  This area would be chosen based on the ability to remain hidden, thermoregulation and browsing/hunting along the way.

 

 My data indicates constant movement cycle within a territory, they seem to hang in an area for not much longer than 3 or 4 days ( there have been certain months in certain areas that are exception ) and they basically travel for a day to another resource area along a known routine and hang out for a few days and so on, eventually they follow this general path all the way back around to the starting line and repeat but constantly flexing the path ( within 1 or 2 miles of bandwidth outside of direction of intended travel ) according to need or human activity.  

 

 This model prevents patterning by prey and humans, prevents over browsing and resource devastation, explains the indifference and frequency of road crossing reports and provides a schedule that allows for gauging future resources to avoid scarcity periods.  I plan on doing a thread thoroughly explaining it all in-depth in the near future.

[Catmandoo]

2 hours ago, Backdoc said:

BTW how does Bigfoot trim his toenails ? 

 

With big clippers.

[MIB]

8 hours ago, NathanFooter said:

 

 I would suggest a home range model with a nomadic cycle of following resources completely every 2 to 3 weeks ( obviously deviating enough down from lasting snow ) along box-canyons and or benches that follow streams and smaller river pathways.  This area would be chosen based on the ability to remain hidden, thermoregulation and browsing/hunting along the way.

 

 My data indicates constant movement cycle within a territory, they seem to hang in an area for not much longer than 3 or 4 days ( there have been certain months in certain areas that are exception ) and they basically travel for a day to another resource area along a known routine and hang out for a few days and so on, eventually they follow this general path all the way back around to the starting line and repeat but constantly flexing the path ( within 1 or 2 miles of bandwidth outside of direction of intended travel ) according to need or human activity.  

 

 This model prevents patterning by prey and humans, prevents over browsing and resource devastation, explains the indifference and frequency of road crossing reports and provides a schedule that allows for gauging future resources to avoid scarcity periods.  I plan on doing a thread thoroughly explaining it all in-depth in the near future.

 

I think that is a part of the picture, maybe all of it depending on locale.  

 

My own area is very seasonal .. main time, late summer, with a couple data points in mid July which could be outliers or could represent a second, smaller, pass-through.    Behavior is pretty different up there when it is "busy" and I suspect there is something "special" going on.    That area spends winter under 5-10 feet of snow with nothing to eat but snow and tree bark.    They are elsewhere.

 

A friend works on a ranch at the bottom of a deep valley in the other direction.    Off and on snow but nothing seasonal .. and no  downhill for food to migrate way towards.    He says they have low level activity year around with occasional flurries of greater activity.   His explanation is that there is a very small permanent population (seemingly akin to what you describe) which act as a "rear guard" making sure that that spot is safe for the traveling groups to temporarily occupy as they pass through.    I've followed up on a number of reports there and out maybe 10 miles in each way.     I can't say that the explanation is right or wrong but I can say it certainly seems to fit the observations.

 

 

[Huntster]

13 hours ago, Backdoc said:

Calorie intake must be on par with that of a similar size gorilla.  BTW how does Bigfoot trim his toenails ? 

 

How do gorillas, chimps, orange, monkeys, etc trim their finger and toe nails?

[Huntster]

Regarding movements and routes, I've always been impressed by Paul Freeman's map of trackways he found and documented. He was good enough with it  to plot potential habituation sites, which led to his 1994 film at Deduct Springs. Have any of you guys been able to see that map or talk to its current owner? (No, I don't know who that is).

 

The beauty of his map and efforts was that he focused his decades long effort on a particular mountain range. This is what enabled him to create such a documented map. I hope somebody was able to pick up on that and carry forward with it..............