Bigfoot caloric intake.

[socialBigfoot]

8 hours ago, norseman said:

With them in the ditch it’s harder to push the snow off the 3/4 mile driveway.

@norseman, your driveway pic looks like it's from the opening sequence to a Bigfoot horror flick starring Lance Henriksen. 

You ever see signs of Bigfoot moving through your property, or even a Bigfoot for that matter? ...or maybe Lance Henriksen?  

[norseman]

19 minutes ago, socialBigfoot said:

@norseman, your driveway pic looks like it's from the opening sequence to a Bigfoot horror flick starring Lance Henriksen. 

You ever see signs of Bigfoot moving through your property, or even a Bigfoot for that matter? ...or maybe Lance Henriksen?  

We are on my wife’s parent’s place in Newport Wa. But on my family ranch where my kids live now?
 

Yes. I witnessed a snow trackway as a kid in snow with my father.

 

And the ranch is just south of Bossburg Wa where the cripple foot event happened about a decade earlier.

[socialBigfoot]

On 10/18/2025 at 10:54 AM, socialBigfoot said:

If Bigfoot are a real species, they could exist as a meta-population. 

For anyone interested in this idea of a Bigfoot metapopulation, I go deeper into the subject on Substack this week. I think this idea offers an answer to a few Bigfoot mysteries and debunker arguments. And, it may explain differences in Bigfoot morphology reported in different parts of North America (e.g., PNW vs east Texas region). 

https://thesocialbigfoot.substack.com/p/bigfoot-are-meta

 

[Madison5716]

Perhaps this is one tendon they are seen near human habitation-food.

[Patterson-Gimlin]

On 10/24/2025 at 6:45 PM, socialBigfoot said:

For anyone interested in this idea of a Bigfoot metapopulation, I go deeper into the subject on Substack this week. I think this idea offers an answer to a few Bigfoot mysteries and debunker arguments. And, it may explain differences in Bigfoot morphology reported in different parts of North America (e.g., PNW vs east Texas region). 

https://thesocialbigfoot.substack.com/p/bigfoot-are-meta

 

Thanks for sharing. A very interesting read.

[Backdoc]

Just interesting basic food for thought:

 

"How much does a gorilla eat a day? A gorilla’s daily diet is quite substantial, with adults consuming around 40-50 pounds (18-23 kilograms) of food per day. In the wild, a gorilla’s diet typically consists of leaves, shoots, and fruits, with some species eating more fibrous foods like bamboo.  "

 

Easy if it's on a plate.   However, I have to think it takes further energy or calories just to round up the 50 pounds of food.  That scrounging for food has to expend some calories and thus additional need to add to that potion to meet its non sedentary needs. 

[NathanFooter]

51 minutes ago, Backdoc said:

Just interesting basic food for thought:

 

"How much does a gorilla eat a day? A gorilla’s daily diet is quite substantial, with adults consuming around 40-50 pounds (18-23 kilograms) of food per day. In the wild, a gorilla’s diet typically consists of leaves, shoots, and fruits, with some species eating more fibrous foods like bamboo.  "

 

Easy if it's on a plate.   However, I have to think it takes further energy or calories just to round up the 50 pounds of food.  That scrounging for food has to expend some calories and thus additional need to add to that potion to meet its non sedentary needs. 

 

 

 Yeah, that is why the herbivore and even a plant dominant omnivore modeling is a tough pill to swallow for Sasquatch. I am of the mind that protein and fat are dominant in the diet. That would alleviate many of the problems regarding area devastation and energy expenditure.

 

    1 pound of animal fat/ plant fat is around 3500.

    1 pound of animal protein ranges from 500 to 900.

    1 pound of huckle berries is about 170.

 

 If a Sasquatch wanted to eat well I think it would be fair to suggest that if they managed 2.5 pounds of fat, 5 pounds of protein and 3 pounds of fruit/leaves they would likely be in a surplus. That would indicate that you could meet the needs of one individual with just over 10 pounds of mass.

   

[norseman]

6 hours ago, NathanFooter said:

 

 

 Yeah, that is why the herbivore and even a plant dominant omnivore modeling is a tough pill to swallow for Sasquatch. I am of the mind that protein and fat are dominant in the diet. That would alleviate many of the problems regarding area devastation and energy expenditure.

 

    1 pound of animal fat/ plant fat is around 3500.

    1 pound of animal protein ranges from 500 to 900.

    1 pound of huckle berries is about 170.

 

 If a Sasquatch wanted to eat well I think it would be fair to suggest that if they managed 2.5 pounds of fat, 5 pounds of protein and 3 pounds of fruit/leaves they would likely be in a surplus. That would indicate that you could meet the needs of one individual with just over 10 pounds of mass.

   

My only issue that I have been struggling with for years is what happens in winter?

 

7.5 lbs of animal fat and protein means your hunting. In winter? Hunting means tracks. Lots of tracks. And ungulates move down the mountain closer to human habitation.
 

And 3 lbs of fruit, nuts or leaves would have to be stockpiled for winter. Which also means that during the summer months they would need to double their forage rate.

 

We can say they all migrate to the coastal forests where winter is sparse. But that would definitely compress the population into a much smaller area. Which would make them much easier to find?

 

If they just hunker into a cave or mineshafts in winter and go semi dormant then these lairs should be easy to locate? As most of them are mapped.

 

Maybe depending on the region? Survival tactics vary?

 

At least in the Pacific NW? I say if you unlock the mystery of winter with this species? Then that will be the final hurdle to discovery.

 

 

[NathanFooter]

5 minutes ago, norseman said:

My only issue that I have been struggling with for years is what happens in winter?

 

7.5 lbs of animal fat and protein means your hunting. In winter? Hunting means tracks. Lots of tracks. And ungulates move down the mountain closer to human habitation.
 

And 3 lbs of fruit, nuts or leaves would have to be stockpiled for winter. Which also means that during the summer months they would need to double their forage rate.

 

We can say they all migrate to the coastal forests where winter is sparse. But that would definitely compress the population into a much smaller area. Which would make them much easier to find?

 

If they just hunker into a cave or mineshafts in winter and go semi dormant then these lairs should be easy to locate? As most of them are mapped.

 

Maybe depending on the region? Survival tactics vary?

 

At least in the Pacific NW? I say if you unlock the mystery of winter with this species? Then that will be the final hurdle to discovery.

 

 

 

 My view is there are not many of these things out there ( less in your area, maybe 3 from border to Newport ) and I am convinced they come down right to a place they find " tolerable " and skirt along river corridors just above normal human access or use. The cycle they likely follow in the colder climates must be large and in thick timber so the ice plate deposits from melt and refreezing cover a lot of their recognizable prints and destroy details that give it away. I believe Grassman58 on youtube has found a few suggestive trackways over the years. Being close to edge habitat for deer, elk and remote valleys with running waterways would be priority. 

 

 My only guess would be they reduce activity massively, perhaps have some caches and operate at on deficit until snow breaks up. I would not be surprised to find out one day they can reduce their metabolic rate in the colder months, some form of torpor but not true hibernation. I have heard some far north native tribes are reported to have this ability to a degree. I could see them taking advantage of shafts and shallow cave systems but I want to know why we don't find preserved tracks in the cave floor if that is the case.

 

There are a variety of snow trackways from nearby your area and they tend to occur around periods of bad weather, one I remember was about a guy found a set of prints that crossed his property near the Priest River area and they led up hill to a mangled deer completely disemboweled and meat pulled from the body, he noted bloody butt marks, hand prints and knee prints in the snow around the carcass. This was back around 2008 or something, the tracks went up hill into timber through some nasty thick regrowth and the guys could not follow as the snow was bucketing down and night was falling. I met the guy and heard his story first hand at the Klondike Tavern in Laclede, WA just before he moved to Alaska ( Thorn Bay ).

 

I heard a similar story about someone finding snow prints up Dry Canyon Rd in 2014, tracks crossed the road and went up hill toward the north to south ledge above the river, I tried to get in touch with the witness but he was native and did not want people to think he was crazy so he would not get in touch with me.

 

I also got a report of a snow trackway behind Freeman Lake in February of 2017, guys brother told me a little about it but said that he would not talk to anyone as he was a totally recluse.

 

The other factor is that people out in these more harsh environments and remote properties are generally tight lipped and don't like to share.  They know stuff and you don't and they want to keep it that way.

 

To just touch on the coast for a second, I have loads of data here that seems to indicate they are still moving through their core habitats and visit throughout the year, as noted in another thread. They seem to drop below the holding snowline and hang out in wet thick crap on the edge of big timbered slopes that border a variety of habitat types and resources, they then cycle through a kind of loop along preferred paths over the course of a couple weeks and return to the starting point.

 

 Outside of the coastal states, your guess is as good as mine honestly but we still get the occasional snow trackway in the dead of winter so my question would be, how is it happening if they go coastal?  This where I am with the question and that is what I have come across in my 4 years investigating the Selkirk area and it did not add up to much.

 

 I 100% agree, if you can solve the winter strategy in snow holding areas then you can really move the ball forward.