ShadowBorn Posted April 21, 2017 Moderator Posted April 21, 2017 Where's the reports of creatures being hit by cars? Would not people report some thing crazy like hitting a large animal and running off on two legs. I have hit deer and have looked back and was sure the animal was dead. Nope ! the animal got right back up and took off in the dark. But at the time of impact I had no idea of what I hit until I looked over. It was all slow motion. But what about people that do hit one of these creatures? what will their reaction be ? I try to look at my self and place my self in their shoes if this was to happen to me. None of us can say how we will react until we have been placed in that same situation . I think two things can happen with our emotions 1. we get deep trauma or 2. we have excitement and just want to spread what one has just seen. For myself it has always been number 2 I enjoy it but the same time I just want to stay closed about it.
daveedoe Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 Where are all the dead Bigfoot? My guess would be with all the dead horses! lol
Guest Cryptic Megafauna Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 On 4/21/2017 at 2:48 AM, gigantor said: yeah, So what? Finish your claim, what does that prove? Try reading the thread I was responding to and answer your own question. It was a statement of fact. A response to another statement (or insult) if you will. My thesis is earlier in the thread. Try reading the thread, think, and respond. Then you will seem less foolishly hostile. But more like an intelligent interlocutor... On 4/21/2017 at 2:48 AM, gigantor said: yeah, So what? Finish your claim, what does that prove?
jayjeti Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Here's an article that lists possible reasons why we don't have sasquatch bodies or bones. http://sasquatchresearchers.org/blogs/bigfootjunction/2014/11/03/test/ 2
bipedalist Posted May 19, 2017 BFF Patron Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) On 4/21/2017 at 3:21 PM, daveedoe said: Where are all the dead Bigfoot? My guess would be with all the dead horses! lol Yeah but we find an occasional fossilized minihorse or miniaustralopith? On 4/21/2017 at 1:56 PM, ShadowBorn said: ..... On 4/21/2017 at 1:56 PM, ShadowBorn said: .... But what about people that do hit one of these creatures? .... Yep, I have hit deer at night and rolled them three or more times in slow motion headlight vision, they get up on their feet a little dazed and waltz off and you could not find them ten minutes later, that is low impact. My father hit a deer high impact on I-95 in southeast Maryland one night, and the policy (at least then) by the Maryland State Patrol is you track them and put them out of their misery, this one jumped a fence and was gone. Oh, yes, and he (my father) needed a new car thereafter. Edited May 19, 2017 by bipedalist
MikeZimmer Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, jayjeti said: Here's an article that lists possible reasons why we don't have sasquatch bodies or bones. http://sasquatchresearchers.org/blogs/bigfootjunction/2014/11/03/test/ One of the most fascinating articles that I have read in a long time. Perhaps all nonsense. My own bias is that it is not all nonsense. 2
JustAGuy Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, MikeZimmer said: One of the most fascinating articles that I have read in a long time. Perhaps all nonsense. My own bias is that it is not all nonsense. Yeah, that was a very interesting article. The supporting material was also very interesting - some familiar, but also many unfamiliar to me.
BC witness Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Thanks for posting that, Jayjeti, an interesting read. 1
MIB Posted May 19, 2017 Moderator Posted May 19, 2017 I think it comes down to 3 things. 1) In general they are relatively rare so there are not very many dying to find in the first place. 2) Ritual burial - while the scoffing idiots have mostly caused people who see such things not to report it, there are some few reports and the appear credible to the best of my ability to investigate. 3) I do not think sasquatch are alone nearly as often as we think. We see one. Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack applies ... just because we only see one does not mean there aren't others seeing us. All in all I think very very few die alone, possibly only a couple per year total, and remain laying on the ground such that they're available to "just find." How many people find meteorites? Yet how many fall? And the ones that do fall pretty spectacularly, unlike bigfoot who is pretty secretive. MIB
SWWASAS Posted May 19, 2017 BFF Patron Posted May 19, 2017 My first encounter there were three. Two were whooping back and forth to each other. One was carrying a small juvenile. When I got growled at there were two. The one that I knew was there and caused to growl when I tried to force it to break cover and the one that flanked me and had got behind me. Some of the other stuff where they threw things could have been one since I think it likely that was an older juvenile having fun with me. Anyway in my experience, I would almost count on there being more than one at some encounter. You might see only one of them. Some mighty hunter that thinks he is tracking one and is going to get a good shot is likely to have one close behind him he is unaware of. Think Jurassic Park and velocoraptor attack. That is how I felt when the one behind me that I did not know was there, broke the tree off. If I had not backed off at the growl I might not be typing this. 1
TritonTr196 Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 I can see how it would be difficult to find their bones in some places. But some places it even boggles my mind that some hasn't been found. Places they don't migrate from, while large areas they really don't have enough space to bury all their dead over the years without at least a few being found.
Guest DWA Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) "Finding" bones presumes much. It presumes that one comes across them; knows what they are; gives them to someone who knows (or, rather, make that, "admits") what they are; that person alerts other technical specialists who know (make that, "admit") what they are... Bones have been found; people have reported it. In SE Alaska, among other remains found there, a mummified foot was found, maybe the same one twice in a period of weeks, both by people driving vehicles with passengers who said, no way is that thing getting in here, toss it. ...aaaaaaaand, you don't believe that. Er, see the problem? Count on it, bones have been come across, many more times than once. Just like sightings and footprint finds have happened - oh, count on this - MANY more times than have been reported. I didn't report mine, for example. What's the point? One more thing. Practically everyone who has ever found remains of anything, in the scientific sense which is the only one that counts, *was looking for them.* The accidental finds that make up every single sasquatch-remains case reported never got into the hands of a person who recognized what they were and brought it to the attention of the wider scientific community. Which, even had this been done, would have had to take the information and run with it. Just like everything else relating to this topic, denial is the culprit. Edited May 20, 2017 by DWA
ShadowBorn Posted May 20, 2017 Moderator Posted May 20, 2017 19 hours ago, SWWASAS said: My first encounter there were three. Two were whooping back and forth to each other. One was carrying a small juvenile. When I got growled at there were two. The one that I knew was there and caused to growl when I tried to force it to break cover and the one that flanked me and had got behind me. Some of the other stuff where they threw things could have been one since I think it likely that was an older juvenile having fun with me. Anyway in my experience, I would almost count on there being more than one at some encounter. You might see only one of them. Some mighty hunter that thinks he is tracking one and is going to get a good shot is likely to have one close behind him he is unaware of. Think Jurassic Park and velocoraptor attack. That is how I felt when the one behind me that I did not know was there, broke the tree off. If I had not backed off at the growl I might not be typing this. Swwasas I can relate with this. Yet here we are talking about them so they have restraint. How come Dr. j does not talk about this on how they are as a flesh and blood creature. If we can figure them out as a flesh and blood creature then we can figure out where their bones are. It only makes sense. Each of us have gone out into the woods and ran into these creatures and have received some type of reaction that gave some meaning at some certain time. All those growls mean some thing to them but not to us except that we need to flee as a warning. The growls I have received have been at dawn and on game trails. Sorry did not mean to change the subject.
Twist Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 3 hours ago, DWA said: "Finding" bones presumes much. It presumes that one comes across them; knows what they are; gives them to someone who knows (or, rather, make that, "admits") what they are; that person alerts other technical specialists who know (make that, "admit") what they are... Bones have been found; people have reported it. In SE Alaska, among other remains found there, a mummified foot was found, maybe the same one twice in a period of weeks, both by people driving vehicles with passengers who said, no way is that thing getting in here, toss it. ...aaaaaaaand, you don't believe that. Er, see the problem? Count on it, bones have been come across, many more times than once. Just like sightings and footprint finds have happened - oh, count on this - MANY more times than have been reported. I didn't report mine, for example. What's the point? One more thing. Practically everyone who has ever found remains of anything, in the scientific sense which is the only one that counts, *was looking for them.* The accidental finds that make up every single sasquatch-remains case reported never got into the hands of a person who recognized what they were and brought it to the attention of the wider scientific community. Which, even had this been done, would have had to take the information and run with it. Just like everything else relating to this topic, denial is the culprit. Do you have a link to the AK story, sounds interesting.
Guest DWA Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 The AK stories - and oh they're interesting - aren't online, unless someone's posted excerpts from J. Robert Alley's Raincoast Sasquatch, which I consider essential reading on this topic. It includes not only a great depth of reports from the AK/BC raincoast, but some of the best thinking I've seen on sasquatch in general.
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