Guest Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I don't disbelieve any of that & in fact would say that DR's Account would be the only one i believe, but i do wonder how a Guy who is a regular Visitor to a Taxidermy www. Forum would leave soemthing like that little one he shot, at the scene.. That puzzles me.. The relevance of what was shot on anyone would have been massive, but on a Taxidermy enthusiast, you'd x 100. I have the same question, and if I had to take a guess I would say that DR's version of the story is the truest, although not 100% because I would tend to think that they either took one or both bodies or at least the DNA sample with them in the moment. Yes, the adult may have been quite heavy, but they were bear hunting, so presumably they had some "plan" for moving a large, dead animal. Or at the very least, the weight of the juvenile would have been manageable. I certainly appreciate DR posting a reasonably believable version of the story which I REALLY hope turns out to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted July 16, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted July 16, 2011 I certainly appreciate DR posting a reasonably believable version of the story which I REALLY hope turns out to be true. Yep me too, massively.. But as the Story says, the little one was there & available.. All i can assume is that they were so overawed at what happened that they just wanted out of there BUT the Guy was/is a Taxidermist & i just think he may have had a Taxidermists outlook on what happened instead of the average Man/Woman, but i may be wrong of course.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 not trying to be arrogant here,but i'll believe it when the evidence is proved to be 100% authentic and they announce the findings! there are way to many people in this world that are addicted to attention for me to feel safe believing anything without actual evidence! Same here. I'll believe it when I see the validated reports. And not until. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted July 16, 2011 BFF Patron Share Posted July 16, 2011 Interesting statement by David P. of N.American Bigfoot commenting on a bigfoot blog The DNA acts much different then all other DNA in the world, thus a project we thought would take 4-6 months has trailed into three years. Is it me or has this statement now been edited out of NABS blog #109/110? Now seems to be replaced by this (which seems a little more consistent with science): DNA is the fingerprint of life, DNA identifies what the biped is, and we then have an indisputable answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I swear on my life, if we had a body the whole **** world would know about it. Besides that, if it turned out I was lying I'd never be able to show my face again. I plan on doing research for the rest of my days, and I don't want to be known as, " the guy who was hiding the bodies ", please. The effort is on-going. If a body is found it will be known immediately. I give my word on that. DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I don't disbelieve any of that & in fact would say that DR's Account would be the only one i believe, but i do wonder how a Guy who is a regular Visitor to a Taxidermy www. Forum would leave soemthing like that little one he shot, at the scene.. That puzzles me.. The relevance of what was shot on anyone would have been massive, but on a Taxidermy enthusiast, you'd x 100. This is what he told DR, but he probably threw kid BF in the pick-up. I don't believe the part about going back and finding the meat. He probably took mama BF at the same time too. This part of the story was altered so the state cops won't come knocking on his door looking for BF. The cops would find some reason to confiscate both animals even if he is not charged with a crime. Both BFs are probably stashed away in a freezer far from his home. In about a year, we will hear about the London Museum of Natural History buying a stuffed BF or two from an unnamed source for several million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted July 16, 2011 BFF Patron Share Posted July 16, 2011 Derek since you are on the forum can you name the rifle/scope Hunter that shot the BF was using at the time? Prob. belongs over in Sierra shootings thread but this is referencing same in this thread too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 The shooter will tell the rest of his story at the appropriate time. This is an important story and all the rest of the details need to be told by him, not me. I'm not trying to be elusive, but this is his story, not mine. I've given the pertinent facts as I've been told by the shooter, and yes I believe him. Just because the story doesn't make since to some, doesn't mean it's not true. I know that anybody can be lied to, and I suppose that it's possible this guys giving me an academy award performance, but I don't believe this is the case. I do believe him and at this point he's become my friend. I don't take that lightly. Here's another point some are overlooking. The primary benefactor for the OP is Wally Hersome. Wally has more money than most people will ever see in their lifetime. Wally is an amazing man, and one of my true heros. The shooter knows all about Wally. Don't you think that if the shooter was keeping the bodies for financial gain that he would have approached Wally at this point and tried to make a deal? Seriously, think about it. There are other reasons I can't disclose at this time for me to know it to be true. This doesn't have to be a big conspiracy. It's an unfortunate incident that we can now learn from, so let's learn from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted July 16, 2011 BFF Patron Share Posted July 16, 2011 Appreciate the feedback DR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RioBravo Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Thanks for clearing stuff up, Derek. Are you looking forward to when all this info goes public? What kind of emotions are you and other researchers experiencing? Are you dreading the release (and inevitable scrutiny) of the evidence, or are you eagerly awaiting the moment you can celebrate in front of all the skeptics? Not trying to be smart, just truly interested in the atmosphere "behind the scenes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thepattywagon Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 What I've learned from it so far is that we've been handed several variations on the shooting theme, and the only one that's going to count is the one from "Shooter" himself. With all due respect to you, DR. I'm sure I speak for many when I say I appreciate your efforts to clean up what is an obvious mess some others have made of this incident. I suppose that ultimately it won't matter how it went down IF indeed there were no bodies recovered and if the DNA test results are conclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 The shooter will tell the rest of his story at the appropriate time. This is an important story and all the rest of the details need to be told by him, not me. I'm not trying to be elusive, but this is his story, not mine. I've given the pertinent facts as I've been told by the shooter, and yes I believe him. Just because the story doesn't make since to some, doesn't mean it's not true. That's a good position to take. I can understand your need to help defend and protect this witnesses from the mountains of misinformation that has been put out there by a few. I listened to you discuss this on Abes show, and I appreciated your comments on how you felt about making this information available to this community - because we all have been working to find an answer to this for a long time. I know that anybody can be lied to, and I suppose that it's possible this guys giving me an academy award performance, but I don't believe this is the case. I do believe him and at this point he's become my friend. I don't take that lightly. Well either this "shooter" sent in this piece of flesh to Melba or he did not. How it tests - is Melbas job. That part of this requires no "academy award performance". But, I will say, I hope you're right, because you have kinda put your neck out there for this witness. Here's another point some are overlooking. The primary benefactor for the OP is Wally Hersome. Wally has more money than most people will ever see in their lifetime. Wally is an amazing man, and one of my true heros. The shooter knows all about Wally. Don't you think that if the shooter was keeping the bodies for financial gain that he would have approached Wally at this point and tried to make a deal? Seriously, think about it. Indeed, very good point. I forgot you guys were associated with Wally. There are other reasons I can't disclose at this time for me to know it to be true. This doesn't have to be a big conspiracy. It's an unfortunate incident that we can now learn from, so let's learn from it. I agree, if this story is true - it is unfortunate. But, if I were in the same situation, I am not sure what I would do. Derek, there will always be people who create "conspiracies" - they can't live without them. If it were me, I would ignore them. You know what you know, and hopefully you will have your day when all this comes to fruition. Personally, I don't care how it "went down" - what matters in the end is "what are the test results". What's done is done, none of us can go back in time and change things. It happened, and now it's over. I just hope the tests pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Thanks RioBravo! A human question, I love it! I can't wait until it all comes out! I look forward to sleeping all night again..lol. As you can imagine emotions are running high. I am very blessed with my research friends. They completely support me and the Olympic Project. Without them, this would would be a lot harder to get through. I have a large family, two businesses, a race team, my research and on and on. Man would I love to take about a one month backpack trip away from all the everything! As far as celebrating in front of all the skeptics, HELL YA!!! I told ya so doesn't quite cut it! All gray area was erased for me back in 1985. I've known them to be real since then, so ya, you can say that it's been frustrating for me for the last 26 years. Like I said, I told you so doesn't quite cut it. Every ridge I've climbed and every peak I've submitted I've thought about it every step of the way. When you spend as much time in the wilderness as I have you have a lot of time to think. I don't have any problems with skeptics though, people have the right to believe anything they want. It's the arrogant self centered ones that get under my skin. The people that look at the world around us and assume that they know everything. Thanks for your comments Melissa. DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RioBravo Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Thanks for the reply, Derek. I hope things turn out well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 The military can assist law enforcement but only with support and nonlethal sctivities such as transportation or surveillance. Do we have any new information on the fate of the two BFs? Why would the shooter be in contact with a taxidermist is a body was not in possession? Thank you for the first comment, and I wonder if we will ever find out that there is irrefutable proof, such as a body being displayed under bright lights with Fox, CNN, and MSNBC reporting it with the filmed proof being brought out for the world to see that BF do exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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