Guest Silver Fox Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Sizewise you mean ?? SF, how do you know the Dims ?? Yes he agreed with me about the size on the radio show. Melba Ketchum told my source the dimensions of the steak in a phone conversation. She had it in front of her and she was describing it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HairyGreek Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Melba Ketchum said it was 7 inches long by 4 inches wide by 3 inches deep. She also said that it appeared to have been sawed off a body with a knife or some tool. That isn't a steak by any stretch even if it was said brother. And I can't listen to any of you anymore. "He said...", "She said...". I have a headache trying to keep up. I want some proof from somebody about something. Please...anything verifiable outside of what came out of someone's mouth about this whole incident? Anything at all? Someone send me the link of the radio show he is talking about above??? Reason for edit: asking about radio show. Edited July 18, 2011 by HairyGreek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vilnoori Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 As I understand it, 'vilnoori', your contention only applies to Crown Land, not private lands. So any one could still shoot a BF on private property with the owner's permission and get away with it. - Dudlow I'm not sure about that, however, nearly 90% of Canadian land IS Crown land. That's 8,886,356 km². Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted July 18, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted July 18, 2011 Someone send me the link of the radio show he is talking about above??? Reason for edit: asking about radio show. Please.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HairyGreek Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Please.. Pretty please with sugar on top, whip cream and a cherry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slimwitless Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Someone send me the link of the radio show he is talking about above??? Reason for edit: asking about radio show. Radio Show 1 Radio Show 2 I think it's from the first link. Edit: If I remember right, Randles calls in to the first show after the break. Edited July 18, 2011 by slimwitless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 No, you're wrong again. Not trying to be hostile at all, just don't want to see you sensationalize this even more than you already have. Melba has seen the same pictures I've seen. The piece she received was small. It was a small piece cut off the original piece. Three inches thick? I'm not sure how you came up with that. Not even close my man, not even close. The picture will be out in time and you can see for yourself. Flesh size your not to far off, but no it's not that thick at all, and it does not look like it was carved off anything, and no Melba has never seen the original piece in person. And by the way, if you listen to the radio show I never said it was anywhere near that thick, and NEVER said it looked like steak. I've seen it, have you??? You know Silver, I'm not trying to get under your skin, but if you're a human being then maybe, just maybe you could possibly understand my position. I've been in research 26 years come this august. I'm involved in the research project of my life. My entire crew has been waiting very patiently for this study to come to an end. We have a lot more in this study than one piece of flesh. We have hundreds of miles hiked and thousands of hours of research time invested, and then you come along and out a partial story just because it's fun for you, and some folks are tired of waiting. God, give me a break here. Meanwhile, you wave any responsibility to get the story straight, even when I agreed to give you the real story. How in the hell do you think I feel? I'm pissed, but I'm trying very hard to contain myself. Imagine working so many years to a pinochle, and then having a journalist, blogger throw out a version of a story that clouds your organization and casts doubt everything you're trying to accomplish? Put yourself in my shoes for a minute. Later on when your days are few, are you going to look back on this and be all happy about the moves you've made? I'm sure you'll have some snappy comeback that makes you feel great about yourself, but quite honestly, this makes me ill. DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dudlow Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I'm not sure about that, however, nearly 90% of Canadian land IS Crown land. That's 8,886,356 km². So noted, 'vilnoori'. However, here in Ontario, over 75% of the land south of the Near North/North Bay to Tri-Town corridor (in other words all of Southern Ontario) is privately owned, and that is a vast tract of land, not far off the size of Pennsylvania, where serious damage to BF populations can be done. The number of morons hunting from boats, highways, planes, using spotting lights at night, etc., charged and convicted in Ontario every year is quite staggering. I read roughly 25 of the mid-North/Northern Ontario newspapers each week and the number of illegal hunting charges and convictions contained therein boggles my mind. I don't know, maybe I'm just too naive and don't realize that it probably goes on as almost a routine, every day, practice. Stopping these folks from doing their dirty work on Crown Land is job enough, let alone having to deal with infractions on private land, which becomes more complicated for enforcement and much easier to hide. And, I should add, I know from personal experience that we have a significant population of Sasquatch throughout the entire Southern Ontario area living and thriving on private lands. It tells me that there is an active component of the general long gun owning population who don't give a **** about what the rules and laws require, so, to be quite honest, I have always feared the day Sasquatch is officially recognized because of our inability to control their safety and future. - Dudlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slabdog Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Derek: Serious question. Roughly how much longer until the release? Slab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 It tells me that there is an active component of the general long gun owning population who don't give a **** about what the rules and laws require, so, to be quite honest, I have always feared the day Sasquatch is officially recognized because of our inability to control their safety and future. - Dudlow yes, there will always be those that skirt the rules, but a lot of us are law abiding sportsmen. i can appreciate your concern dudlow, but i wonder if being recognized would really make them any easier to find? so far they seem to be pretty good at "flying under the radar".....having papers probably wouldnt cause a decrease in their stealth abilities,imo. with the short attention span of the general public i think it might not be such a big deal after the original announcement fades away , at least outside of the BF community, imo. unless, of course, somebody comes up w/ a BF app for " smart phones"........then they might notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted July 18, 2011 BFF Patron Share Posted July 18, 2011 Radio Show 1 Radio Show 2 I think it's from the first link. Edit: If I remember right, Randles calls in to the first show after the break. "Mr. Lindsay was mostly right, it was 5 to six inches long and cut in half." quote from 99:23 mins. in to the MNBRT show. Answers to what happened to the adult sasquatch body were also mentioned and it was still being investigated what may have happened with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted July 18, 2011 BFF Patron Share Posted July 18, 2011 The question I have for Mr. Randles from this MNBRT call-in on request is he says that both juveniles made sounds to each other alongside the hunters. What were those sounds described as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Yes he agreed with me about the size on the radio show. Melba Ketchum told my source the dimensions of the steak in a phone conversation. She had it in front of her and she was describing it to him. Maybe she was having dinner about that time and accidentally focused on what was on her plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dudlow Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 ... but i wonder if being recognized would really make them any easier to find? IMHO, recognition would result in what I will refer to as an extended media moment during which people everywhere could be motivated, for whatever reasons, to go out and shoot one; because someone has apparently already just done that to a mother and child. This moment could go on for a couple of years as media changes its attitude from that of ridicule to that of serious news gathering on the subject of BF. This, in a sense, could become the next media fixation, the next reality show explosion, as we are now just beginning to see on television with the good ol' boys being filmed hunting BF. BF become targets overnight simply because they have finally been shown to exist, because they are now media darlings and because they could become the latest monsters to be hung upside down next to the brave hunters jostling for their photo op. Recognition would also, sooner or later, draw attention to how widespread BF really are, regardless of how well they manage to hide themselves. Most researchers aren't even aware of how widespread their presence is. Lots of folks with high powered rifles tramping through the bush where people otherwise have no reason to go, will force entire BF clans to continually relocate, an exhausting and daunting task for any species, especially one which insists upon anonymity, all the while needing a stable and accessible food source. I see nothing good, nothing that serves the survival interests of BF, coming of discovery. I fear for them. - Dudlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) No, you're wrong again. Not trying to be hostile at all, just don't want to see you sensationalize this even more than you already have. Melba has seen the same pictures I've seen. The piece she received was small. It was a small piece cut off the original piece. Three inches thick? I'm not sure how you came up with that. Not even close my man, not even close. The picture will be out in time and you can see for yourself. Flesh size your not to far off, but no it's not that thick at all, and it does not look like it was carved off anything, and no Melba has never seen the original piece in person. And by the way, if you listen to the radio show I never said it was anywhere near that thick, and NEVER said it looked like steak. I've seen it, have you??? Many of us only care that some BF tissue was collected from the shooting incident, and it was sent to Melba. Thanks for this info. The tissue size isn't a big issue imho. Did you send tissue samples from incident to other DNA labs to cross check? You know Silver, I'm not trying to get under your skin, but if you're a human being then maybe, just maybe you could possibly understand my position. I've been in research 26 years come this august. I'm involved in the research project of my life. My entire crew has been waiting very patiently for this study to come to an end. We have a lot more in this study than one piece of flesh. We have hundreds of miles hiked and thousands of hours of research time invested, and then you come along and out a partial story just because it's fun for you, and some folks are tired of waiting. Fine and glad that you are a hard worker, and hope you get the proof. Silver has also brought this story to many people and has sparked their interest which helps the BF cause. The general story is all people need to know, and if some facts came out wrong it's better than hiding the story and keeping us in the dark. People like Silver can change the public's false perception of BF and gain some support for research. Without this support, people like your Boss, Wally, would not invest a dime in your effort. Let's stop this infighting and confront our real enemy that is the public's false perception of the BF issue. God, give me a break here. Meanwhile, you wave any responsibility to get the story straight, even when I agreed to give you the real story. How in the hell do you think I feel? I'm pissed, but I'm trying very hard to contain myself. Why can't you call Silver on the phone and provide some inticing facts for his blog? Work together to gain public support. You seem to want a whipping boy as a stress reliever. Just mellow out, get the proof and don't weaken yourself fighting with Silver. We are on the same team.............remember. Imagine working so many years to a pinochle, and then having a journalist, blogger throw out a version of a story that clouds your organization and casts doubt everything you're trying to accomplish? How has he cast doubt on your work? He has said nothing bad about your organization. In fact he informed me and many others as to what your were doing. Casting doubt may come if you find out the shooter is not so truthful. Put yourself in my shoes for a minute. Later on when your days are few, are you going to look back on this and be all happy about the moves you've made? I'm sure you'll have some snappy comeback that makes you feel great about yourself, but quite honestly, this makes me ill. You don't have time be be ill................get the proof for us and bigfoot.....go Derek! Edited July 19, 2011 by georgerm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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