RedHawk454 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Its a good off road rig, i'd be much more likely to get that than any of the newer jeeps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRockBigfoot Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, RedHawk454 said: Its a good off road rig, i'd be much more likely to get that than any of the newer jeeps. That's the truth. Buddy of mine bought his wife a brand new Jeep last year. Nothing but problems and completely unreliable. They traded it in after less than a year. Every time he complains about it in public, he has people chime in to share their horror stories with Jeep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbone Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I had a new wrangler as a rental car in Albuquerque this year. I experienced the Jeep death wobble at 70mph on the interstate. I can't believe they have not fixed that by now. I'll stick with my ugly Suburban. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted October 30, 2019 Admin Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, RedHawk454 said: Its a good off road rig, i'd be much more likely to get that than any of the newer jeeps. The ZR2 has front and rear locking diffs. Off road suspension. Plus you can get it with the baby duramax! Im not saying the Chevy Colorado is perfect. It is a modern vehicle after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawk454 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 hours ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: That's the truth. Buddy of mine bought his wife a brand new Jeep last year. Nothing but problems and completely unreliable. They traded it in after less than a year. Every time he complains about it in public, he has people chime in to share their horror stories with Jeep. the 4 door Wranglers and the New Gladiators are wannabe hummers I have an 06 TJ with the inline 6 4.0 its great Jeep but these newer ones with the 3,6 v6... meh 3 hours ago, norseman said: The ZR2 has front and rear locking diffs. Off road suspension. Plus you can get it with the baby duramax! Im not saying the Chevy Colorado is perfect. It is a modern vehicle after all. Old vehicles do become money pits tho My old 1986 Ranger was neglected by the previous owners I'm actually entertaining getting a 2020 Super duty with the new 2 valve push rod 7.3 Gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted October 30, 2019 Admin Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, RedHawk454 said: the 4 door Wranglers and the New Gladiators are wannabe hummers I have an 06 TJ with the inline 6 4.0 its great Jeep but these newer ones with the 3,6 v6... meh Old vehicles do become money pits tho My old 1986 Ranger was neglected by the previous owners I'm actually entertaining getting a 2020 Super duty with the new 2 valve push rod 7.3 Gas Dunno about the new gas pot but their diesels are junk. And I was born with a blue oval stamped on my butt. I currently have a Dodge Cummins and a Chev Duramax. The Cummins has more power but everything else is junk. Ive had zero issues with the Chev at 85k And it rides like a caddie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantor Posted October 30, 2019 Admin Share Posted October 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, RedHawk454 said: I have an 06 TJ with the inline 6 4.0 its great Jeep but these newer ones with the 3,6 v6... meh Inline 4.0 = 190 HP - 235 ft/lbs 3.6 V6 = 285 HP - 260 ft/lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawk454 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, gigantor said: Inline 4.0 = 190 HP - 235 ft/lbs 3.6 V6 = 285 HP - 260 ft/lbs the inline 6 cylinder 4.0 is a tractor engine it’ll last longer than the 3.6 2 hours ago, norseman said: Dunno about the new gas pot but their diesels are junk. And I was born with a blue oval stamped on my butt. I currently have a Dodge Cummins and a Chev Duramax. The Cummins has more power but everything else is junk. Ive had zero issues with the Chev at 85k And it rides like a caddie... do a SWOT analysis on Ford and CHeVY and you’ll see they both have had QC issues im glad you like your two diesels i agree that the power strokes are sketchy, which is why I like this 7.3 Gas Ford is coming out for the MY 2020 honestly newer diesels are expensive to maintain these days with the DPF, DeF, regen etc. unless your towing 10 tons a lot of the time the diesels are hardly worth it. The 7.3 Gas has a nice flat torque curve paired with the 4.30 gears it’ll pull like a power stroke from the late 90’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted October 31, 2019 Admin Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 44 minutes ago, RedHawk454 said: the inline 6 cylinder 4.0 is a tractor engine it’ll last longer than the 3.6 do a SWOT analysis on Ford and CHeVY and you’ll see they both have had QC issues im glad you like your two diesels i agree that the power strokes are sketchy, which is why I like this 7.3 Gas Ford is coming out for the MY 2020 honestly newer diesels are expensive to maintain these days with the DPF, DeF, regen etc. unless your towing 10 tons a lot of the time the diesels are hardly worth it. The 7.3 Gas has a nice flat torque curve paired with the 4.30 gears it’ll pull like a power stroke from the late 90’s I like big gas pots.... but my wallet does not. The raptor 6.2 L got like 14 hwy and 10 city. My Duramax averaged 20 mpg on the Colorado trip with the best of 28 mpg. I bet the baby Duramax does way better. So I understand the not needing a diesel for towing but I still like MPG better. But Im a trucker so I like diesels better anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawk454 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) These little trucks like the Colorado/Ranger/Tacoma are great off road vehicles and grocery getters, but simply can't throw down like the 3/4 and 1 ton pick ups. They just can't. I had a relative who recently recently tried to haul a car frame (I assume on an equipment trailer) across Kansas in his Colorado with the 3.6 V6, which is a mini van engine hes worried he ruined his transmission, and the engine was screaming the whole time under load. Edited November 14, 2019 by RedHawk454 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted November 14, 2019 Admin Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 48 minutes ago, RedHawk454 said: These little trucks like the Colorado/Ranger/Tacoma are great off road vehicles and grocery getters, but simply can't throw down like the 3/4 and 1 ton pick ups. They just can't. I had a relative who recently recently tried to haul a car frame (I assume on an equipment trailer) across Kansas in his Colorado with the 3.6 V6, which is a mini van engine hes worried he ruined his transmission, and the engine was screaming the whole time under load. I would not buy a Colorado for any towing duties. Or any other mid sized for that matter. In the woods they are great. Houndsmen love Toyota pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExTrumpet Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Love the ZR2...the wife drives a Range Rover Sport. We have a 1996 Jeep Cherokee (4.0) for her to drive when her POS Landie is doing what Landies do best... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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