Guest BAGWAJININI Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Whistles: I know there is an owl that whistles. Not all owls hoot. I don't know the scientific name of said owl; however, his name in my language is wenjiganooshiihn. Tree knocks: Trees constantly knock and crack in the woods. they knock against each other in the wind. They can crack in the cold or heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knuck Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 To hear the chattering at close range. It sounds akin to a squirrel monkey, or a mad racoon. One sound made as a warning/acknowledgement to each other when they aren't that far from each other is a short duration, raspy, throaty, low volume yell. I believe it can be a sort of "hello" also. The tribe here, uses various barred owl calls a lot. Yes some are really barred owls. Some aren't. Two can do sounds of horses really well. (At 3am the horses are over a mile from here. During the day too.) JMEO-Knuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Barred Owl has a sound like a shrill whistle. I've heard and recorded nocturnal "whistles" that are not Barred Owl, and probably not human, deer blows, or any other source I can blame it on. I've heard other's recordings, that are even more perplexing. On a windy night in the woods...the trees rub, crack, and hit up against each other. In below freezing temps, trees can pop and burst....all true. How about on a night that is dead calm , with moderate temp.. and then you hear a knock(s) that sound like wood on wood....and you know that you are alone? Maybe the "All wise" here on this board, can explain the source(s). Please use references for the sounds, and not just opinions (we all have those). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wudewasa Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Owl vocalizations: http://www.owlpages.com/sounds.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted August 6, 2011 BFF Patron Share Posted August 6, 2011 To hear the chattering at close range. It sounds akin to a squirrel monkey, or a mad raccoon. .....nocturnal "whistles" that are not Barred Owl, and probably not human, deer blows, or any other source I can blame it on. I've heard other's recordings, that are even more perplexing. I suspect in quote #1 above you are on to something.....it is easy to be fooled, and difficult to prove. In quote #2 there is a whistle chatter that is hard to deny and incorporates local stimuli within the repertoire and can be no other known living thing but that which we are studying on this board IMVHIO. It is much more complex than those alluded to in the Sierra Sounds examples but it exists and has had some confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tirademan Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) I'd broken these out and posted them at the old BFF...here they are again! Lot's of "guttural" mentions. One mentions imitation of other animal sounds. tirademan Edited August 6, 2011 by tirademan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bsruther Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I find R. Scott Nelson's linguistic study of BF chatter to be very fascinating. Some of Stan Courtney's recordings remind me of the sounds heard on the Berry/Morehead tapes. Nelson slowed the chatter down and discovered patterns and repeated words. video posted by Darkwing More from NABS http://www.nabigfootsearch.com/Bigfootlanguage.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 The talk I heard outside my tent I awoke to (and ended due to me not snoring anymore) in Honobia last year was different than the Sierra recordings. What I heard was a exact match to another researcher in the same spot two years earlier that I found on Youtube later. Listen to Dave at 4:30 and 5:50 he describes in 2008 what I heard in 2010. http://www.youtube.com/user/darkwinglh#p/u/91/X-8QkBqkCWs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggie Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 The talk I heard outside my tent I awoke to (and ended due to me not snoring anymore) in Honobia last year was different than the Sierra recordings. To me the "yupps" that he imitated where the tones went from low to high actually sounded kind of similar to a part of the Sierra clip though. That's interesting to me that you guys heard that since I've never heard that sound being mentioned in reports before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted August 6, 2011 BFF Patron Share Posted August 6, 2011 Yep, I've got language recorded that is non-human, non-English too (as do others), doesn't take anything away from the recorded whistles though, just another piece of the puzzle. Can't put all your eggs in one basket. I've got imitation crows at night interspersed with vocal, whistle too just as the content in the paper tirademan posted up recounts. Personally, I've not discerned imitation owl calls in my own research that I can prove though. These are individuals....to think there is some form of standardized vocals may miss the boat. Doesn't mean they don't use some form of language-like structures but they do incorporate alot from their naturalistic environment and from those few human attempts at contact to make it known what they are doing and that they are masters of imitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I think he is an excellent impersonator of sounds. I've heard "frog" croaks that approached me quickly from within a blackberry thicket. Not the best place for a thin skinned frog to be hopping. The curious thing was, each croak ended in a growl, like ribbit-grrrrrr, ribbit-grrrrrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BAGWAJININI Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Yep, I've got language recorded that is non-human, non-English too (as do others), doesn't take anything away from the recorded whistles though, just another piece of the puzzle. Can't put all your eggs in one basket. I've got imitation crows at night interspersed with vocal, whistle too just as the content in the paper tirademan posted up recounts. Personally, I've not discerned imitation owl calls in my own research that I can prove though. These are individuals....to think there is some form of standardized vocals may miss the boat. Doesn't mean they don't use some form of language-like structures but they do incorporate alot from their naturalistic environment and from those few human attempts at contact to make it known what they are doing and that they are masters of imitation. They have a language other than imitating nature. I haven't heard it, but stories and petroglyphs show sounds coming from his mouth. I haven't even been blessed enough to hear the chattering or nature imitations. My closest encounter was a hunting incident and the only thing I heard from him was breathing. I can only assume that the nature imitations would be a stealth mechanism. This is only assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BAGWAJININI Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Barred Owl has a sound like a shrill whistle. I've heard and recorded nocturnal "whistles" that are not Barred Owl, and probably not human, deer blows, or any other source I can blame it on. I've heard other's recordings, that are even more perplexing. On a windy night in the woods...the trees rub, crack, and hit up against each other. In below freezing temps, trees can pop and burst....all true. How about on a night that is dead calm , with moderate temp.. and then you hear a knock(s) that sound like wood on wood....and you know that you are alone? Maybe the "All wise" here on this board, can explain the source(s). Please use references for the sounds, and not just opinions (we all have those). The all wise huh? Good sarcasm. I don't go out into the woods with any kind of equipment. All of my experience is kept in my heart and memory. Just because I know some about them doesn't mean that I know all. I do find it hard to believe that howling or a high pitch wail is a way to call them though. I'll leave all the referencing to those that go out with the cameras and sound equipment. I don't need to reference my own experience. I don't feel the need to go and look up references all over in order to follow a suit. Yep I said it. I think people are hearing something particular about him which is recent and simply following suit. The stories I've heard were passed down quite a few generations. That wood on wood sound can be made by woodpeckers. They test trees for softness before assuming that there is a scrumptious treat in the center. The knock in the night time I don't know. I know that birds aren't very active in the dark, but perhaps it could be a reflex thing with woodpeckers. Who really knows eh? I wouldn't have made the thread if I knew it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted August 6, 2011 BFF Patron Share Posted August 6, 2011 Depending on need, I think the naturalistic sounds are mixed in with other sounds for either stealth or as an attention-getting mechanism that they produce to gain esteem. For example, one evening that the nocturnal crow was heard it was integrated into whistling/whimpering animal-like raccoon calls and also phoneme-encoded utterances. It was also so rapid that a human could not possibly produce such a concatenation of sounds in the same time period. When you hear that, and you understand the physics involved, you can be nothing but humbled and oh so impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BAGWAJININI Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I'd broken these out and posted them at the old BFF...here they are again! Lot's of "guttural" mentions. One mentions imitation of other animal sounds. tirademan Interesting stuff. The where the guy shoots it and it screams is a little funny to me. People that go out using 22's and 30 30's must be like using a pellet gun on a dog. It stings but don't hurt. I don't know. Obviously he was mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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