Guest Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Incorrigible1, it's out there. I have a bit. If I do, others must because I am just a hobbyist of short standing. Now you can scoff, but it's just as easy to believe it's true as it is to believe anything else, including that I am lying. Either way, you believe something. Go for the gusto, bro. Believe it's there. I think it has to be. You've mentioned three times that you have some footage... Care to share it???
Guest Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 There could be film or pics out there that would be interesting to see. For instance there was that film shown on "Swamp People" that the family had for years. Now it wasn't conclusive but it didn't scream fake to me. As for blockbuster film or pics it's possible that some people simply dont want the attention. Personally if I had a clear film or pic I'd cash in.
Guest Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) Kings canyon, are you Todd Standing? I ask because the story in this thread sounds just like the sylvanic deal. I can claim to have a leprechaun riding a unicorn on HD video, but until I release it for all to see, it's all talk. As far as getting ridicule, take a copy of the Vid or pic to meldrum and say "here". I want to remain anonymous. Edited September 20, 2011 by Hoosierfoot
Guest Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Kings canyon, are you Todd Standing? I ask because the story in this thread sounds just like the sylvanic deal. I can claim to have a leprechaun riding a unicorn on HD video, but until I release it for all to see, it's all talk. As far as getting ridicule, take a copy of the Vid or pic to meldrum and say "here". I want to remain anonymous. The OP was concerning " PurloinicusFinch posted an extraordinary claim on Reddit.com. " and his video & story so bring Todd Standing into this it a little uncalled for. Just saying..... Which "story" in the thread are you refering too?
bipedalist Posted September 20, 2011 BFF Patron Posted September 20, 2011 I think the surveillance footage you are speaking of is from a casino outside of Oklahoma city. The casino does claim to have erased it saying it had no value to them. But it has been said by a casino employee that someone from Oklahoma university and someone from Oklahoma state university came right after the incident and got a copy of the tape. So this video may come to light one day. I have a friend who has been trying for sometime to track this video down to be part of a documentary or tv show. No luck yet but he has not given up. Those who have seen the video say it is a good video showing the BF duck under a 10ft street/night light then go and rummage through a garbage dumpster. In the old BFF 1.0 thread there was mention of a tribal member who moved to Canada who had copied the video and taken it with him as well (this is from memory some time ago). Maybe he moved to a town named Canada instead of the country though. Apparently the name of the member was not released publicly but is known by those close to the incident.
Guest Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 I find it odd that kc says he has good video of them and can go get more footage whenever he wants to. That's a heck of a claim. Ok, i admit bringing in the toddster is too far if he indeed isn't the man. My apologies kings canyon. I have a sarcastic sense of humor that can't be holstered sometimes. Can you elaborate on what the footage you have of them is? Like, are they walking or sitting or something. How close have you got to them?
Guest BFseeker Posted September 21, 2011 Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) "In the old BFF 1.0 thread there was mention of a tribal member who moved to Canada who had copied the video and taken it with him as well (this is from memory some time ago). Maybe he moved to a town named Canada instead of the country though. Apparently the name of the member was not released publicly but is known by those close to the incident. " Thanks Bipedalist I will pass this info on to my friend. Edited September 21, 2011 by BFseeker
Guest Posted September 22, 2011 Posted September 22, 2011 Hoosierfoot, Thanks much for the clarification!!
BobbyO Posted September 22, 2011 SSR Team Posted September 22, 2011 I find it odd that kc says he has good video of them and can go get more footage whenever he wants to. That's a heck of a claim. I don't think it is.. If it's true, then i don't really see it as a big deal personally, & i don't blame KC for sitting on it, in the slightest. Not saying i would, or wouldn't, i don't know, but everyone's different, everyone has different Charachters & tolerance levels especially where probably criticism is concerned.
Whistler Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 I don't think it is.. If it's true, then i don't really see it as a big deal personally, & i don't blame KC for sitting on it, in the slightest. Not saying i would, or wouldn't, i don't know, but everyone's different, everyone has different Charachters & tolerance levels especially where probably criticism is concerned. I understand the different strokes for different folks saying, but why else are we here besides to look at and discuss the evidence and at the end come up with our own conclusion on the matter?
Guest krakatoa Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 What is remarkably consistent is that so many offer really bad evidence, be it blurry photos or video, print casts open to interpretation, droppings that may or may not be bear, audio that is inconclusive at best, etc... And when that evidence is weighed and found wanting because we never see the actual money shot, we are told "Well I've got much better evidence, but since you've been so mean as to tell me this evidence is inconclusive, I won't show you the really good stuff." We keep getting the same excuses from some of the same folks. While their stories could be true, they certainly give no reason to believe them. In the end, I just file the stories as entertainment. I'll be pleasantly surprised if any of them actually pony up the "good" evidence, and even more pleasantly surprised if that evidence is actually better, much less definitive. 1
Guest Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 I think quality of evidence is dependent on factors, including repeatability, discourse, testing, etc. I think quality of evidence diminishes if it is “sat uponâ€, as it fails objective testing and results, findings, etc. I’m of the opinion it can not be “good†evidence if it is not shared, and only becomes good evidence when it is shared.
southernyahoo Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 Kings canyon, are you Todd Standing? I ask because the story in this thread sounds just like the sylvanic deal. I can claim to have a leprechaun riding a unicorn on HD video, but until I release it for all to see, it's all talk. As far as getting ridicule, take a copy of the Vid or pic to meldrum and say "here". I want to remain anonymous. I don't believe any film would be enough. It's too easy to just say this is a clever or not so clever hoax. People want some "hypothetically" credible investigator to go to the spot where it is filmed , establish the size of every object in the scene, refilm a meme in the same spot, with the same camera and settings, They want the persons name who filmed it and every detail of his personal life mapped on a spreadsheet for the previous ten years, then argue for decades about how the investigator didn't get something right, their measurements can't be proven , their conclusions are biased and flawed because they are proponents, the filmographer didn't do something logical blah blah blah................. Yes , seeing a real bigfoot on film would be great, but you'll never be able to say you know 100% they exist by looking at a film, even with all the details behind it. Such films would only do better "after" the biological existence question is irrevocably settled. 1
Guest Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 It seems like people who have not had a sighting really want to see a picture of a bigfoot. I get that. And others who had sightings also might want to see such a photo. I do NOT get why, if a person is not convinced by a particular bit of film, he or she finds it necessary to ooze vitriol all over the film and its poster. JUST SAY I don't see the squatch in there or I am not sure that is clear enough or detailed enough to serve as solid evidence. It is possible to be tactful, it only takes a moment's effort, and it encourages further submission of evidence. The grand high lords of BF research , if too freakin old, lonely, drunk, cranky, or depressed to be decent, ought to be quiet. It is very upsetting and surprising, I am sure, to many people who think they have valid evidence to be denounced publicly and called names, have their material criticized severely, and be accused of malfeasance. They might not express it so, but the truth is that it really makes you feel bad. Terrible. Fool me once, as they say. Personally, I sometimes long for a chance at face to face rebuttal, as do me strappin younger brothers. After that kind of treatment, I would not have any further truck with anyone who showed me such disrespect or scorn. Why would anyone? Yes, more abuse, please. Please, sir, may I have another? Way to kill the goose, guys. ___________ That said, another thing is that a lot of times little bits of evidence present themselves in a piecemeall fashion. This picture shows what the feet of one looks like, here you can see a hand, see, they have longish nails, in another pic you see eyeshine, here pairs of eyes, etc. Over time it builds up, informing the one, but not really acceptable evidence for the many. So when people say they know this or that, maybe they cannot prove it without a huge effort at retrieving pictures taken long ago, looking through them all minutely, etc. That is one more thing....look at pictures minutely. Examine them very closely a cm at a time. SLOW down.
Incorrigible1 Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 Respectfully, if a photograph needs minute inspection or red circles, maybe it's not such a great piece of evidence. No need to get upset when some request a clear photo, yet none are forthcoming. I can assure you I would be immensely magnanimous if I had such marvelous evidence. One can't help wondering at the assurances some provide they just don't wish to share. Motive is a damned odd thing.
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