Is The Skookum Cast Still Considered To Be A Potential Bigfoot Lay?

[Guest]

The majority of the folks that gave there input too what it was were BF enthusiasts looking for only one answer ~ No to mention that is came from the totally one sided BFRO were nothing can ever be questioned.

Tim

So because a scientist studying the cast comes out with a pro BF conclusion based ON science, he is now a "BF enthusiast" and no longer a scientist?

[wolftrax]

Factually incorrect, as even you admit below. He simply will not permit his work to be used carte blanche without ensuring his entirely relevant interests in maintaining the evidentiary value and data integrity associated with the cast are met.

LOL! It has nothing to do with maintaining evidentiary value and data integrity!!! The process for analysis of any evidence has never required the analyst to be filmed and allowed the footage to be used for a "Bigfoot documentary".

Explicit admission that what you said above is factually in error and you know it, wolf.

No, if he wanted it examined he would have let it be done without having to film it or requiring permission for him to use the footage any way he pleased.

1) Data from examining the actual cast or moldings from (such as that collected by Dr Meldrum, et al) trumps simplistic casual observations of some photographs.

So Anton Wroblewski's analysis of the molding from the cast is valid.

He has said he would be willing, so long as his conditions about quality of research, data preservation, etc are met.

Once again you are factually in error.

As noted above by various persons, that also is factually in error.

lol. It has not been shown to be in error. The reasoning given for not allowing the 3d scan to be analyzed was because of the supposed lack of hardware and software. I have both, so therefore the reasoning for not allowing it to be used for analysis is not valid.

It's hiding the pickled punk.

[Guest]

What the heck ever happened to Mulder? He would have already dissected all these "ad hom" arguments against someone's research just because they are proponents of the subject they are studying.

Trouble accessing the internet from home. Limited to when I can get to the library. Hoping things improve soon.

Gotta run...time is up.

[wolftrax]

Factually in error.

also factually in error.

Correction, continuously repeating things demonstrated to be factually in error does not make them true.

The materials are available to those willing to meet the specified conditions to protect the curator's legitimate interest in having it properly analyzed and presented.

Too bad for you that he won't simply give you what you want given your (and other Skeptics') public statements that show you are not to be trusted to be impartial and objective with it.

lol! What I want? I really don't care enough about the elk imprint to want it. But you've proven my point, only those who will give a result of it being a sasquatch are allowed to meet your analysis standard.

Hide the pickled punk.

And yes, it has been shown overwhelmingly that it was made by an elk.

Edited October 13, 2011 by wolftrax

[Guest RedRatSnake]

So because a scientist studying the cast comes out with a pro BF conclusion based ON science, he is now a "BF enthusiast" and no longer a scientist?

http://www.bfro.net/NEWS/bodycast/expedition_details.asp

The most obvious fresh tracks were coyote and undetermined deep marks. Noll, Randles, and Fish notice an unusual impression in the transition mud at the edge of the muddy pool area. The three trackers discuss the strange imprint, then suddenly it dawns what animal caused it. Fish and Randles note the shock on Noll's face. Each tracker comes closer to have another look, discussions follow for 2-3 minutes.

On the BFRO site it is even published how long it took for those 3 trackers to make up there mind what it was, from then on as we all know with the BFRO ~ it was a BF print and nothing else.

Tim

[Guest RedRatSnake]

What the heck ever happened to Mulder? He would have already dissected all these "ad hom" arguments against someone's research just because they are proponents of the subject they are studying.

Your Champion could use a hand ~

Tim

[Guest LAL]

Irony, thy name is...

Lu?

Don't you see the widewale corduroy impression in the imprint? Hoaxers will stop at nothing! Here's a dog for the graphic. I'm too tired to put it together.

[Guest RayG]

Two words: nut prints.

RayG

[Guest RedRatSnake]

For those who really take this BFRO stuff seriously, take a good look at the Overall picture from beginning to now, it's a scam and always has been, they have nothing to show . . . no more than anyone else, ( well except way more claims ) it's about the Big $$$ not the Big Monkey ~

Tim

[Guest Cervelo]

Mulder,

As always thanks for your open minded clarification. It's always a pleasure!

[Guest]

It might be more accurate to say Skamania County has a long history of activity and that some of the posters here seem to be totally unaware of that.

Are you proposing to disarm the deniers by not allowing them the fallacy of argumentum ad ignoratiam? As it is they've brought a Nerf ball to a gun fight, and you want to take away their Nerf ball?

Since Dr. LeRoy Fish's bootprint was in close proximity to the impression it's obvious the body imprint was made by Dr. Leroy Fish. End of discussion.

Excellent application of RRS logic.

I have explained as much as I need. You just dont like having your perceptions challenged

Trust me, your illogical rants have not challenged anyone's perceptions. Spouting illogical arguments numerous times and insulting those who do not agree with you do not a logical argument make.

[wolftrax]

Skamania County also has a number of UFO sightings, but not as much as adjacent Yakima County.

http://www.cufon.org/cufon/topufos.htm

So who's to say it wasn't an alien Grey that ate the fruit while riding on top of the elk?

Or maybe a UFO levitated the sasquatch above the elk impression, so that he could pluck up the fruit without leaving any sign?

[BobbyO]

Your Champion could use a hand ~

Tim

I'd say he was doing more than ok on his own, personally..

[Guest FuriousGeorge]

Can the people that don't think it's an elk be called "skeptics"? I don't think I will use the term "proponent" anymore. It's "elk skeptic" from here on out.

[Guest LAL]

See what I mean?

In the Skookum imprint we at least have Dr. Fish's bootprint for scale. The surrounding area isn't so torn up that any hoofprints left by a rising elk of whatever size weren't squished beyond recognition. I have no idea what a bowhunter would have been doing in the area between 3-6 A.M.