7.62 Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) On 7/27/2023 at 8:21 PM, norseman said: I would have to see it to believe it. I had hounds and Bobcats don’t really tree. They stay on the ground and use their small bodies to get into tight places the dogs cannot go. Rocks, hollow logs, dead fall, brush piles. It’s way more effective as well. The houndsmen cannot get a shot on em. Not saying a Bobcat won’t tree, but they are what 30 lbs? Hauling a fawn straight up a 15 foot perch is no small task. Mine was in Wisconsin. Not any cougars in Wisconsin is there? I don’t see fawns in trees here? But our trees here are not usually helpful unless it’s a school marm ( split top ). Expand Yeah average is 25 30 pounds but they do grow bigger . The record in that state is 52 pounds . Really not sure what hauled it up there but if there are bobcats claw marks on the tree I have to go with bobcat .And cats are just crazy strong Edited July 29, 2023 by 7.62
Incorrigible1 Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 11:26 PM, NorCalWitness said: https://www.ksnt.com/news/kansas/mountain-lion-sightings-increasing-in-kansas-heres-where/ 50 sightings in KS in the last 15 years. This is a state with NO mountain lions, allegedly. Someone should tell these cats they aren't allowed to be there Expand Breeding lions confirmed in several locations in Nebraska. Many of us are getting in the habit of referring to them as "River lions," since we have no mountains, yet it's plainly evident the cats are using rivers as travel ways across the state. 1
NorCalWitness Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 12:18 AM, norseman said: NE Washington. My blue state in its infinite wisdom banned hound hunting years ago. I gave my hounds to two Indian kids across the river. My female outstruck everyone of his dogs on top of the box. And her brother literally latched onto a bears rump while it was climbing a tree and was attempting to rip it off the tree. He used to hang from raccoon drags I would tie into a tree. Great great fun. Those dogs were as dedicated as my mules were! Your preaching to the choir on everything else. I know that animals are reclaiming their range. And I know we have Jags in the southwest. Yes. But a large cougar needs to be killing about a deer a week. Your gonna notice if he is around. And the other thing is Ive never seen a Cougar hang a fawn in a tree. They will eat 20 lbs of meat in just one feeding. That Fawn should have been a quick snack. Yes a Cougar has the power to haul it up there. Easy. It should also have the power to go back and get it whenever. So why not? I promise one thing? Coyotes did NOT scare it away. Expand Agreed, when you put it that way, its weird that it didn't get munched. No chance it was a bird. That much is sure.
CelticKevin Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 5:08 PM, NorCalWitness said: Mountain lion. Expand Bingo.
norseman Posted July 29, 2023 Admin Author Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 3:03 AM, NorCalWitness said: Agreed, when you put it that way, its weird that it didn't get munched. No chance it was a bird. That much is sure. Expand Not unless….. 1 1 1
Doug Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 I heard a commotion about fifty yards below me in a dried out swamp when deer hunting. It sounded like a bear killing a deer. After the commotion stop I see a bobcat walk out from the criss crossing logs and brush. I wanted to see what it was doing. The bobcat laid on a log about one hundred yards away. I head down to take a look. What I found was a spike black tailed deer around eighty pounds in body weight laying half way on a log with four bloody fang marks on the wind pipe. 1
norseman Posted July 29, 2023 Admin Author Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 5:58 AM, Doug said: I heard a commotion about fifty yards below me in a dried out swamp when deer hunting. It sounded like a bear killing a deer. After the commotion stop I see a bobcat walk out from the criss crossing logs and brush. I wanted to see what it was doing. The bobcat laid on a log about one hundred yards away. I head down to take a look. What I found was a spike black tailed deer around eighty pounds in body weight laying half way on a log with four bloody fang marks on the wind pipe. Expand Bobcats are known to kill deer by leaping on their backs and biting the neck. Thanks for sharing! 1
wiiawiwb Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 I think there are limited breeding populations in states where the Environmental Conservation Departments will arrogantly tell you none exist. Deny, deny, deny is the protocol. Too much economically at stake in terms of having to create a special department, with rules, and plenty of state personnel potentially involved. Budget busters that those states that would prefer they just not deal with it.
Arel3 Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 This is a common thing Mountain Lions do with their preferred prey of deer and elk. Mountain Lions are in Wisconsin where this happened.
norseman Posted July 29, 2023 Admin Author Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 3:17 PM, Arel3 said: This is a common thing Mountain Lions do with their preferred prey of deer and elk. Mountain Lions are in Wisconsin where this happened. Expand Cougar drag Elk into a tree????!!!!
Incorrigible1 Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 3:17 PM, Arel3 said: This is a common thing Mountain Lions do with their preferred prey of deer and elk. Mountain Lions are in Wisconsin where this happened. Expand Leopards, yes. Mountain lions?
norseman Posted July 30, 2023 Admin Author Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 6:14 PM, Incorrigible1 said: Leopards, yes. Mountain lions? Expand I don’t know about an Elk. But Leopards are impressive.
OkieFoot Posted July 30, 2023 Moderator Posted July 30, 2023 I remembered seeing this article a couple of years ago. Unfortunately there weren't any pics taken. https://www.nps.gov/romo/deer_in_tree.htm
OkieFoot Posted July 30, 2023 Moderator Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 2:38 AM, Incorrigible1 said: Breeding lions confirmed in several locations in Nebraska. Many of us are getting in the habit of referring to them as "River lions," since we have no mountains, yet it's plainly evident the cats are using rivers as travel ways across the state. Expand Incorrigible, are you anywhere near SW Omaha? Note this article is dated only five days ago, on July 25. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mountain-lion-nebraska-search-home-security-video-rcna96109
Incorrigible1 Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/30/2023 at 12:46 PM, OkieFoot said: Incorrigible, are you anywhere near SW Omaha? Note this article is dated only five days ago, on July 25. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mountain-lion-nebraska-search-home-security-video-rcna96109 Expand Yes, a few blocks from me.
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