Guest Dudlow Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 While I don't pretend to understand anything whatsoever about the possible connections, nonetheless I can report 3 incidents in which Squatchy and NL/UFO craft have been seen in the same place within a period of two to three days - once by me and once each by two different friends, spanning a period of about 40 years; all in different locations but within the Province of Ontario. All I can say is, my, what a coincidence that there's a coincidence about these coincidences. - Dudlow
Guest TooRisky Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 It was a sincere question that doesn't deserve a patronizing non-answer. So what do you say about my research locations? Are they certified BF areas? I have no idea, I would have to come out and see for myself... As for being condensending, I put that to a thin skin on your part as all i did was answer your very direct question with a very direct and honest answer... Now you and all are welcome to come out with us as part of our charter by-laws is to educate the public at no charge... Now I travel and research the NW to the SW US and would love to come and spend some time if in this area... Lemme know as I am always up for something different...
Guest StankApe Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 What would the purpose be though? IF there are alien beings from another world traveling through hyperspace(or wtvr) to visit our planet. Why would they be dropping off crates of Bigfoots? It just doesn't add up really..... It seems like an awfully long way to travel to drop off a potential predator or something. It doesn't make much sense that they would attempt to communicate with a primitive creature rather than the ones running the show. It'd be like finding out there was intelligent life on mars and studying the deer there instead of the creatures in charge... Who would do that? IF Bigfoot had some sort of technological connection (or social ) with said aliens, wouldn't we expect that Bf would have a more developed culture? Has anyone looked at the connection between UFO's and BF as it relates to Air Force Bases nearby? That could explain MOST of this issue IMO. Someone sees BF, 2 weeks later they see a strange light in the sky. (experimental aircraft perhaps) then , they choose to make a connection betwixt the two on their own. I can catch fish off a small island, then later on see a strange light above my fishing spot. That doesn't mean that the aliens are talking to the fish.
Bonehead74 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) My point was that TooRisky's criteria is wholly subjective and of no use to an investigator in in area he isn't familiar with. I could just as rightfully claim to know of certain confirmed BF/UFO areas and he would be unable to dispute it. I haven't given him any information to test my claim so he's left either believing me or not. No matter which he chooses, it's his opinion, not an objective conclusion based on any data. The offer to leave my job and fly across the country and go into the wilds in a stranger's van to be shown proof of a hairy giant is highly unreasonable when he could simply described his methodology for determining a confirmed BF area. Plus my whining and thin skin would probably really annoy him. Edited October 24, 2011 by Bonehead74
Guest TooRisky Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 While I don't pretend to understand anything whatsoever about the possible connections, nonetheless I can report 3 incidents in which Squatchy and NL/UFO craft have been seen in the same place within a period of two to three days - once by me and once each by two different friends, spanning a period of about 40 years; all in different locations but within the Province of Ontario. All I can say is, my, what a coincidence that there's a coincidence about these coincidences. - Dudlow Being open to this I ask all the forum to at least tie the two together for me with theory at least to just get my mind wrapped around the correlation of the two... i just cant see what these two have in common...
Guest StankApe Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Oh Bonehead, my quote (what would the point be though) wasn't referencing you. I was asking what would be the point of aliens mingling with Bigfoot. Sorry, i tend to post in a stream of concioussness manner sometimes... My apologies if i mixed you up!
Bonehead74 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) No problem. With you or TooRisky. The biggest correlation between BF and UFOs definitely comes from a few specific locations. Edited October 24, 2011 by Bonehead74
Guest Dudlow Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 i just cant see what these two have in common... Either can I, 'TooRisky'. Unless I recall what Stan Johnson (who used to have a website before he passed away) used to insist upon concerning BF being brought here from elsewhere by EBEs. That's one of those undiscarded 'high strangeness' notions for consideration that is languishing waaaaaay up there on the farthest back shelf. - Dudlow
Guest TooRisky Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 My point was that TooRisky's criteria is wholly subjective and of no use to an investigator in in area he isn't familiar with. I could just as rightfully claim to know of certain confirmed BF/UFO areas and he would be unable to dispute it. I haven't given him any information to test my claim so he's left either believing me or not. No matter which he chooses, it's his opinion, not an objective conclusion based on any data. The offer to leave my job and fly across the country and go into the wilds in a stranger's van to be shown proof of a hairy giant is highly unreasonable when he could simply described his methodology for determining a confirmed BF area. Plus my whining and thin skin would probably really annoy him. Now now now... changing course is not a fair tactic as we were discussing certified BF areas right... UFO's and other things were not in the mix and my offer was expressed with an open heart and sincere... The question at had is can I tell if an area could hold a population of BF and with further research tell you if it is active... Thus a confirmed BF area to research....In the end it was not that you would or could make this trip but that I am ready to show you BF confirmed areas at your convenience and back my claims... I/WASRT have lead many into the field with them returning with a new attitude, this was/is available to all... My words are not confrontational, arogent, or being a blow hard... I just offer an experience to reafirm your beliefs...
Guest Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) The biggest correlation between BF and UFOs definitely comes from a few specific locations. Intresting. So why would bigfoot and ufo be connected then, there has been sightings of other cryptid with UFO such as black Cats but no cryptozoologist studying unexpected large cats (that I am aware of)have made any connection between this cats and UFO. Edited October 24, 2011 by Jeff Albertson
Bonehead74 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Now now now... changing course is not a fair tactic as we were discussing certified BF areas right... UFO's and other things were not in the mix and my offer was expressed with an open heart and sincere... I don't doubt your sincerity in the least and I wasn't changing course. I was pointing out that your definition of a confirmed BF area was subjective and experience based. That obviously works great for you, but it does nothing to help someone in another location who doesn't have the benefit of your experiences. Jeff, As for the other cryptids and UFOs, the Bords, Stan Gordon, FW Holiday, Ivan Sanderson, and John Keel come to mind, although I'm not sure if I totally understand your question. Edited October 24, 2011 by Bonehead74
Guest Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Jeff, As for the other cryptids and UFOs, the Bords, Stan Gordon, FW Holiday, Ivan Sanderson, and John Keel come to mind, although I'm not sure if I totally understand your question. If the biggest correlation between bigfoot and UFO comes from a few specfic location. So with all the other sightings of Bigfoot come from all over the U.S. and Canda with no sightings of and concetion between U.F.O and Bigfoot why is there a conection between the two (Bigfoot and U.F.O.)? Black panters have been reported with U.F.O but no cryptozoologist that I am aware of have made any conection between black panthers and U.F.O. so why make a correlation between bigfoot and U.F.O? Being open to this I ask all the forum to at least tie the two together for me with theory at least to just get my mind wrapped around the correlation of the two... i just cant see what these two have in common... Me too I am trying to do the same thing.
Bonehead74 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) If the biggest correlation between bigfoot and UFO comes from a few specfic location. So with all the other sightings of Bigfoot come from all over the U.S. and Canda with no sightings of and concetion between U.F.O and Bigfoot why is there a conection between the two (Bigfoot and U.F.O.)? Black panters have been reported with U.F.O but no cryptozoologist that I am aware of have made any conection between black panthers and U.F.O. so why make a correlation between bigfoot and U.F.O? It's probably because bigfoot-like creatures have been reported inside of and in close proximity to supposed UFO craft. I don't know that any cryptozoologist proper makes the BF/UFO connection either. It's mostly Forteans, UFO buffs and paranormalists that seem to do that. I want to make it clear that I do believe the UFO phenomenon exists, but is most likely not caused by extraterrestrial visitors. I am also highly skeptical of any claimed BF/UFO link. I just happen to be familiar with the literature and have first hand experience with witnesses who have claimed such things. Somewhere along the line I think folks began thinking I am a BF/UFO proponent. I am not. I do think that if people are truthfully reporting what they have seen in a BF/UFO sighting, then the creatures are not actual sasquatch as we know them. They are something other, if they exist at all. Edited October 24, 2011 by Bonehead74
Guest Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Me too I am trying to do the same thing. Just an assumption,(I do believe in both but never witnessed either) If Ufos were/are coming here,they would most likely study biological life forms and BF being a very rare one, would be interested in them so, some get lucky enough to see both at the same time.
Guest Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Interesting...I am reading John Alexander's book UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies, and Realities. He does an excellent job of crushing the giant government UFO conspiracy idea. However, toward the end, he DOES address other anomalous phenomena (try saying THAT five times real fast), and their possible meaning. He brings up the Cash Landrum sighting, including what they reported as a large number of helicopters 'escorting' the UFO. His take on this is image projection by aliens. Showing us something to gauge our response, in the same way we might do that while studying other primates. Until reading that, I had not given much consideration to the idea of witnesses seeing both things at once. It makes as much sense as any other explanation for either phenomenon...Aliens show us the bigfoot 'image', and their craft, to see how we respond. For those interested, the book is very good. It does a very good job of finding the middle road...That there ARE anomalous, high strangeness/high credibility reports and sensor data, and that there is NO large government program to account for them. I found it a Books A Million for less than ten dollars.
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