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    • Trogluddite
      Winner, winner, chicken dinner.   However, I suspect that the Forums management would not want us to say that "X researcher's post about whatever" can be proven to have been hoaxed." When I first got interested in Bigfoot circa 2010 or so, I relied primarily on a website by a person who is such anathema to the Bigfooting world that even mentioning his name here led to banishment.  One of the things this person did (although not why he was persona non grata) was outline the different lawsuits threatened, filed, claimed, etc. by one bigfoot "researcher" who felt slighted by another bigfoot "researcher."   That being said, your analysis appears to be spot on and the visual aids support your claims.  Way back in the day (2013ish or so), I had visited this particular sight and/or read about it here and found videos claimed to having captured a bigfoot playing tic-tac-toe or playing with ghosts.  Needless to say, your two reports simply add to the conclusion that claims by this individual merit little weight.        
    • Huntster
      This is an excellent thought, and even beyond what you detailed. In addition to "how much" the subject of Bigfoot has changed generationally, there is "how" the subject of Bigfoot has changed generationally.    Like you outlined, older folks saw Bigfoot as a mysterious monster lurking about in the deepest forests because that's what the media at the time built. After "Harry and the Hendersons", in the early '90's,  bigfoot became a cool, primitive human being with incredible skills in invisibility.   More recently, Bigfoot has become a revenue generator for advertisers, product motto creators, and anybody building a YouTube channel.  
    • LocalGayCryptid
      I originally found the mask used in Sasquatch Ontario's 'The Face of Nef' photo, but now it looks like the exact same mask and photo were reused in a separate encounter.   Sasquatch Ontario, ran by Mike Paterson, released two YouTube videos consecutively in May of 2023 claiming to show photos of an alleged Sasquatch named 'Nef'.   • Video #1: 'Sasquatch Selfie', published May 6, 2023, featured a photo 'Nef' took of himself. The video explains that Mike was sitting at a table with Dwayne and showing him some images, when he noticed that one of them was actually a partial face shot of 'Nef' (photo #1). He also specified that this picture was taken on April 1, 2023.   • Video #2: 'The Face of Nef', published May 27, 2023, featured a photo Dwayne took of 'Nef'. The video explains that Dwayne stepped outside, heard laughter, and photographed two photos of 'Nef' blindly (photo #2). He specified that these pictures were taken on December 27, 2019 and were sat on for a while.    The videos 'Sasquatch Selfie' and 'The Face of Nef' are described by Mike as two entirely separate incidents. However, upon comparing the images in these two videos, I believe:   • Both photos use the same mask, and   • They may actually be the exact same photo, just cropped or resized.     The biggest things that I've noticed are:   • The two light reflection dots in the eyes are in the exact same spots.   • The nose shape and angle are identical.   • The eyes, brow ridge, and facial tilt match perfectly.   • There’s no variation between the two images. Both photos share the exact same features, right down to the angle the face is at. There's virtually no difference.    I've provided a comparison of the two photos (photo #3) as well as a gif comparison (photo #4) so you can see for yourselves.   You may notice that the eye reflections are slightly larger in the 'Sasquatch Selfie' photo. I believe this is due to 'The Face of Nef' photo being cropped, as bright pixels like light reflections can appear bigger and blurrier when you resize a photo.   Some might argue that similar lighting or facial features are to be expected, as it's alleged to be the same subject featured in both photos. However, that doesn’t explain the identical eye reflections, exact nose angle, and exact matching of the facial structure, which wouldn’t occur naturally across two separate incidents.   Given the similarities, if 'The Face of Nef' photos are proven to be hoaxed, then by association, the 'Sasquatch Selfie' photo may be as well.   If you have any questions, please let me know.          
    • Backdoc
      Interest in Bigfoot... Demographics?   How much is the topic of Bigfoot of interest in various generations?   Does this explain any dip in BFF activity?      Most people around my age group (59 years old) got their Bigfoot interest by movies like Boggy Creek or especially Peter Graves The Mysterious Monsters show.  It was in the Peter Graves show where most saw the PGF for the first time.  Once you left the theaters, you were done seeing the PGF.  The only time you saw the PGF again would be a book or two you could buy or rent at the library.  Even then, the only thing you got in such as book was a still shot of Patty on the famous look back.     In the 1980s those of us who rented VCR tapes (and for a while VCR's themselves) could for the first time rent a video about Bigfoot.  For the first time we could not only watch the PGF multiple times but could also freeze frame, slow it down, and run it back and forth.       About the time of serious home computers of the 2000's some researchers were able to take the PGF and stabilize it.   Then, two things happened.   1) Discovery channel type shows started having Bigfoot TV shows on.   Unlike the ugly 1970's these shows where clean, well-produced with good sold fair scientific discussion about the subject.   2)  The internet created discussion boards as well as YouTube which allowed further video access to the PGF subject.   As long as these generations feels interested in Bigfoot they will continue to consume the Bigfoot subject with TV Ratings and other activity.   This would apply to activity on the BFF.   Yet, the next thing to happen may be two-fold.  1) The older generation feels tapped out about Bigfoot.  They studied it to death and now they either accept it or reject it.  They then move on to other interests or things that effect their life now (grandkids, a reverse mortgage ad, or arguing politics on the internet)   2) The young generation quickly considered the subject based on what they are exposed to (Finding Bigfoot, American Paranormal - Bigfoot, and so on)  The hear people like Jeff Meldrum on TV and are much more likely to give him consideration in his opinions and are willing to challenge the old guard.  To some young person they couldn't imagine someone like Meldrum would be taking a risk even talking about Bigfoot.   The younger generation has less bigfoot concerns because they are focused on many of the issues they care about.  Being more open minded they might be more inclined to believe in Bigfoot but then move right off of it because once they accept it, they don't need/care to study it further.   It's just a given and they move on.  They watch a Messin' with Sasquatch commercial and think Bigfoot or something like him is probably out there.  They laugh and move on.         As far as the BFF I have to think the population itself as seen a shift.  The number of people who grew up (8 track tape generation and older) have sustained or died off.   The younger generation replacing them might not have a deeper interest in Bigfoot since it didn't make up a big part of what they grew up with.   In that way, I wonder if we get less interest in the BFF based on fewer being passionately interested in Bigfoot.    I think the BFF probably skews older like me who grew up with less tings competing for our attention.  One Bigfoot movie (Peter Graves) or some book in elementary school would be more likely to have a deeper impact on us.   If the BFF is down, it actually makes sense.  A downturn is probably expected no different than Car Shows, Cruise Nights, or Baseball Collections.   I wonder if increasing BFF activity means reaching those older 50+ somethings who are -to my thinking- a lot more likely to have the interests in Bigfoot in the first place.   Other than that, I have to think only newsworthy Bigfoot events would drive further interest.  As we all know, there hasn't been another PGF in 50 + years.                  
    • georgerm
      What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?
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